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Old 06-15-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Nashville, and Raleigh are considered to be parts of the New South booming with jobs. With the exception of Miami, they are still southern but their southern culture is changing though.

The Deep South (Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi) and other undeveloped rural areas aren't experiencing explosive growth. In these areas, you definitely are in the South.

I personally prefer large Texas cities like Austin and Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex over other cities in the New South but that is just me.
NW Arkansas (Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers MSA) is experiencing explosive growth; that area has grown by over 13% since 2010. And Huntsville, AL has experienced higher than average growth with a tech-driven local economy.
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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I can also tell you, without a moments hesitation, that the only state that people in Alabama really hate and trash is Georgia, and to that end Atlanta. Atlanta is not a popular city amongst people from Alabama, Mississippi, SC and Louisiana, states that are as deep red and deep southern as you will find. In fact the odd thing about Atlanta, is that it's not popular really in most of the US, but it's reputation amongst those people who consider themselves "real southerners" is even worse.
Interesting. I don't speak for everyone, but my impression is that in NC many of us regard Atlanta as still southern... moreso at least than the Triangle. More similar in character to Charlotte but obviously much bigger. "New South" is a good way to characterize those kinds of cities.

NOVA would be the least southern part of all of these states.... it is not southern at all in my book. It's mid-atlantic, along with DC, and much as Marylanders want to scream at me for saying it, so is their entire state.

Raleigh may be, in my opinion, the least southern city that still qualifies as southern. It is mostly composed of yankee transplants and first-generation residents (like myself) who grew up here with no accent, but there are vestiges of old Raleigh remaining. Durham and Chapel Hill are slightly more southern than Raleigh, but they have also always been weird compared to the rest of the state and the rest of the south, and that goes back for centuries.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:00 PM
 
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Atlanta, Charlotte, Dallas, Houston, Miami, Nashville, and Raleigh are considered to be parts of the New South booming with jobs. With the exception of Miami, they are still southern but their southern culture is changing though.

The Deep South (Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi) and other undeveloped rural areas aren't experiencing explosive growth. In these areas, you definitely are in the South.

I personally prefer large Texas cities like Austin and Dallas/Ft. Worth Metroplex over other cities in the New South but that is just me.
Was Dallas ever Southern though?
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:58 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Was Dallas ever Southern though?
The people from Dallas seem to think that they're southern.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Was Dallas ever Southern though?
Yes but it has also always had other influences considering it sits in a transition zone.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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People north and west of Dallas speak with southern accents so to me Dallas and most of Texas is southern. There are ppl in west TX and in the panhandle that speak in southern accents.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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Interesting. I don't speak for everyone, but my impression is that in NC many of us regard Atlanta as still southern... moreso at least than the Triangle. More similar in character to Charlotte but obviously much bigger. "New South" is a good way to characterize those kinds of cities.

NOVA would be the least southern part of all of these states.... it is not southern at all in my book. It's mid-atlantic, along with DC, and much as Marylanders want to scream at me for saying it, so is their entire state.

Raleigh may be, in my opinion, the least southern city that still qualifies as southern. It is mostly composed of yankee transplants and first-generation residents (like myself) who grew up here with no accent, but there are vestiges of old Raleigh remaining. Durham and Chapel Hill are slightly more southern than Raleigh, but they have also always been weird compared to the rest of the state and the rest of the south, and that goes back for centuries.
I would say Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Newport News metro would be the least southern area that still qualifies as southern with all of the military and transplants that have been a part of the region for decades. However, I would agree that Raleigh is somewhere at the top of the list. NOVA would be the number one area if someone wanted to consider it southern.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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People north and west of Dallas speak with southern accents so to me Dallas and most of Texas is southern. There are ppl in west TX and in the panhandle that speak in southern accents.
Huh? Most Texans sound twangy but I don't know about Southern. Especially Dallas where the accents are kind of neutral.

West Texas accents are more Western than Southern. More similarities to California accents than to Houston ones.

Really Houston is where Texans sound super Southern. Elsewhere they go from "twangy Midland" to "Spanish influenced " to "General American" to "mild West". Southern accents as in true Southern accents dominate the Eastern part of the state really.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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Huh? Most Texans sound twangy but I don't know about Southern. Especially Dallas where the accents are kind of neutral.

West Texas accents are more Western than Southern. More similarities to California accents than to Houston ones.

Really Houston is where Texans sound super Southern. Elsewhere they go from "twangy Midland" to "Spanish influenced " to "General American" to "mild West". Southern accents as in true Southern accents dominate the Eastern part of the state really.
I've ran into people from all over texas who sound southern and wouldnt necessarily know they werent from AL (where I live) if they hadn't said so.
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Old 06-16-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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I've ran into people from all over texas who sound southern and wouldnt necessarily know they werent from AL (where I live) if they hadn't said so.
I suppose that can be possible but as a whole once you go into San Antonio and West, the accents become as a whole less Southern. Whites even at times pick up Hispanic influences in their accent as the culture becomes more Southwestern.
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