Oklahoma: Does it lean Southern, Midwestern, or Western? (2014, oil)
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I just realized that Oklahoma must be in the Midwest. Otherwise it wouldn't have a city called "Midwest City". Heck, even Iowa doesn't have one of those.
The only people who think Oklahoma is Midwestern are not from the Midwest or Oklahoma or anywhere near Oklahoma. I live in Iowa and tons of people here don't even think Kansas should be considered part of the Midwest.
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Originally Posted by CowsAndBeer
I was just going to say the same thing - only people from outside the Midwest/OK would vote "Midwest" on this poll. Truly astounding that it's in 2nd place.
I'm from Minnesota and Oklaholma doesnt really seem that different, very midwestern.
The only people who think Oklahoma is Midwestern are not from the Midwest or Oklahoma or anywhere near Oklahoma. I live in Iowa and tons of people here don't even think Kansas should be considered part of the Midwest.
My very good friend in AZ is from JoCo, and he has told me that the MO side of the KC metro area is distinctly more "Southern" than the KS side. He even went so far as to describe it as "another world."
Admittedly, I've spent very little time on the MO side of the KC metro area, so I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of his perception; however, I will tell you that JoCo felt a lot less alien to me than OKC and especially Tulsa.
What should Kansas be considered then? Have you spent any time in KC, Lawrence? Those cities feel very Midwestern. I could see someone thinking Wichita does not feel that Midwestern but in my opinion, it feels more Midwestern than anything else. As for OK, I would say overall it is southern. Tulsa has Midwestern influences. OKC feels more southern than anything with western influences and a tiny bit of Midwestern influences. South of 40 and east of 35 feels very southern. It just is fuzzier as OK is west and pretty far north. I would say OK doesn't quite feel like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, or Georgia however. It also does not feel like Minnesota, Illinois, or Wisconsin. Which does it feel like more, Arkansas, Kansas, Texas, Missouri, Colorado? Depends where you are in the state. Again, it feels more southern overall.
If you read what I wrote, I'm not saying I don't think Kansas should be in the Midwest. I have this sticker on my laptop and I encounter people all the time who live in the Midwest (mostly the big Iowa cities, the big Wisconsin cities, Chicago, and Minneapolis) and don't think it should be or don't even realize it is.
I would say the southwest corner of the Midwest is Wichita. I could see an argument for Tulsa I guess, but I just think it's way too removed from cities like Milwaukee, Columbus, Grand Rapids, Davenport, etc.
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Originally Posted by iNviNciBL3
I'm from Minnesota and Oklaholma doesnt really seem that different, very midwestern.
If you read what I wrote, I'm not saying I don't think Kansas should be in the Midwest. I have this sticker on my laptop and I encounter people all the time who live in the Midwest (mostly the big Iowa cities, the big Wisconsin cities, Chicago, and Minneapolis) and don't think it should be or don't even realize it is.
I would say the southwest corner of the Midwest is Wichita. I could see an argument for Tulsa I guess, but I just think it's way too removed from cities like Milwaukee, Columbus, Grand Rapids, Davenport, etc.
Really? How much time have you spent in Oklahoma?
True on all counts.
To the bold, exactly. I don't think he's (a) spent much time in Oklahoma or (b) he's not really from Minnesota, but secretly from Arkansas!
Oklahoma is part of the Southwest, the culture is southern, and it has nothing in common with the Midwest. The state is geographically mostly part of the south-central Plains with the West beginning along and west of I-35 and the southeast beginning southeast of Tulsa. The climate has nothing in common with the Midwest. Tulsa likes to think they are an island claiming more northern or Midwest influences but that is exclusively due to old money related to oil company financiers who were mostly not from the region. Oklahoma is also Native America with a significant First Nation populace and is also one of the top states in the US with persons claiming to be of more than one race, or biracial.
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