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Just sayin. Slavery up through the Civil War defined the South more than any other institution. Which is why, to get back to OPs question, New Jersey is not the South.
Good point. Which in turn relates to how the North could be defined as that section where a goodly part of the totality of income was made off the slave trade itself.
This and its sub-links are an interesting read....
Just sayin. Slavery up through the Civil War defined the South more than any other institution. Which is why, to get back to OPs question, New Jersey is not the South.
Good point...on some levels. Which in turn relates to how the North could be defined as that section where a goodly part of the totality of income was made off the slave trade itself.
This and its sub-links are an interesting read....
There are countless forums in this site about "Is Delaware part of the south?", "Is Maryland part of the south?", "Is DC a southern city?", and theres even one forum that says "Is Southern Ohio considered southern?"
Maryland and most of Delaware are south of the Mason-Dixon line, as is DC. I've seen these posts about southern Ohio, Indiana and even. . . .
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Originally Posted by LordHomunculus
We need one for Southern Illinois.
It's been done!
All of these states border Kentucky, which didn't secede in any event, ditto W VA (some border with OH) and MO (some border with Illinois).
No, why would NJ wanna be in the south? Northeast is great.
I like many things about the south, one major exception being the climate. I hate heat and love snow and cold weather, so I'd probably never move there just because of that. But I like many other things, such as cuisine, culture, and the accents. I have been down south and it seems more like "home" as it were, than, say, the urban cesspool that is the NYC metro area. I identify with and feel more at ease with everything from the landscape, to the people, to the pace of life. Then there is religion, of course. And though I am not religious, I do find it laudable that people in the South, unlike the Northeast, worship something other than money. Stereotypically speaking, of course, so please don't the wrong idea. The general point is Northeast is the worst region of the country for the rat race way of life.
There are countless forums in this site about "Is Delaware part of the south?", "Is Maryland part of the south?", "Is DC a southern city?"
Once you read between the lines in these threads, it becomes clear why this is.
Washington DC, Maryland and Northern Virginia are the "new kid" on the block. This area has quickly become one of the wealthiest and most developed places in the U.S.
So naturally, the old guard wants to keep it down by calling it southern and harping on that in their minds - implying it is backwards and not in the same league as the other advanced areas in the U.S. This is their defense mechanism and the root of it all is jealousy.
Of course, this kind of thing happens from time to time throughout history. But it all comes to pass eventually.
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Once you read between the lines in these threads, it becomes clear why this is.
Washington DC, Maryland and Northern Virginia are the "new kid" on the block. This area has quickly become one of the wealthiest and most developed places in the U.S.
So naturally, the old guard wants to keep it down by calling it southern and harping on that in their minds - implying it is backwards and not in the same league as the other advanced areas in the U.S. This is their defense mechanism and the root of it all is jealousy.
Of course, this kind of thing happens from time to time throughout history. But it all comes to pass eventually.
Oh, for pity's sake! My SIL, b. 1954, remembers segregated lunch counters in Maryland as a child. DC has long been thought of as a "southern" city, or, as John Kennedy said, a city of southern efficiency and northern hospitality. A hybrid, really.
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