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I don't have any beef with VA. I think it fair to say though that most people would say Virginia is southern, not northern. Living in RVA, most people think it is a southern city in a southern state
When's the last time you lived in RVA? I'm from there. And while we consider ourselves and our state southern, I can assure you that that "most people" is probably a slighter majority than it would've been a decade ago, and any decade going backwards. Richmond definitely is Southern--and definitely has Northern tendencies...
Maryland is a Southern state, as it always has been. But you could forgive a young person today for believing that the Mason-Dixon Line begins just a little farther down Interstate 95.
We have been limited for too long by an unnaturally small vision of the South as a closed society, artificially constrained by a long-lingering legacy of intentionally cultivated racial division. This vision has not served the interest of black working people, the white working class population that has always lived alongside them or the waves of immigrants that continue to arrive from Mexico and Central America.
Maryland is moving forward today because working people of all races are increasingly coming together across old lines of separation and division to move our state forward. In other words, we are succeeding because of our diversity, not in spite of it.
I don't have any beef with VA. I think it fair to say though that most people would say Virginia is southern, not northern. Living in RVA, most people think it is a southern city in a southern state
I agree with this. The reality is that even people who live in Northern Virginia - of which I know quite a lot - usually think of themselves as being separate from the rest of Virginia.
I've also noticed that the feeling is mutual as there is a stark socio-economic, demographic and political difference between the two... it is the same difference that exists all over the United States: urban=liberal rural=conservative (except for New England)
This is just how it is in 2014. Virginia as a whole is appropriately an upper southeastern state.
I agree with this. The reality is that even people who live in Northern Virginia - of which I know quite a lot - usually think of themselves as being separate from the rest of Virginia.
I've also noticed that the feeling is mutual as there is a stark socio-economic, demographic and political difference between the two... it is the same difference that exists all over the United States: urban=liberal rural=conservative (except for New England)
This is just how it is in 2014. Virginia as a whole is appropriately an upper southeastern state.
Maryland and Delaware are the Upper Southeastern states.
Because most people on the East Coast are very provincial/parochial, don't travel much, and don't stray too far from home. Believe it or not, most people in the Northeast have never really left, esp. in the smaller cities and rural communities, save, perhaps, a trip or two to the theme parks in Florida. Eek.
When's the last time you lived in RVA? I'm from there. And while we consider ourselves and our state southern, I can assure you that that "most people" is probably a slighter majority than it would've been a decade ago, and any decade going backwards. Richmond definitely is Southern--and definitely has Northern tendencies...
I live in RVA right now actually, and have been here for the last 14 years. I think that the people in Virginia think that there state is southern, but people outside of Virginia assume that it is northern because of northern Virginia and how it has changed.
Maryland and Delaware are the Upper Southeastern states.
Where would this board be without you consistently reiterating and reinforcing the message that Maryland is a southern state in each and every single post for the past 6 years. I just want to personally thank you because we would probably forget.
I wasn't aware the author Benjamin Todd Jealous was the Czar and had the ultimate authority on what defines a Northern and Southern city. That itself is interesting indeed.
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