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Old 05-11-2014, 10:35 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Virginia is actually more connected to the other Northeastern States than Virginia is to the Southeastern States. This has nothing to do with culture and history. In California, San Francisco Bay Area has a different culture and history than Los Angeles and San Diego. So do you think San Francisco Bay Area should not be in the same state as Los Angeles and San Diego just because of that? No. In Texas, Dallas-Fort Worth is different from Houston, San Antonio, Brownsville and El Paso yet all of them are in the same state. The same thing would happen if Virginia is in the same state as Delaware, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Maine.


Wrong. Va is more connected to the Southeastern states.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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Wrong. Va is more connected to the Southeastern states.
Virginia has Northern Virginia which is connected to the DC Area, a Northeastern city and Virginia shares portions of the Delmarva Peninsula along with Delaware and Maryland and the Chesapeake Bay with Maryland, both of them geographically Northeastern. So what happens if this nation ever splits into 4 nations which are named the Northeast, the Southeast, the Southwest and the Northwest? Which new nation would Virginia would go to? The Northeast.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:07 PM
 
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NO! California needs to be split up too.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Would there be some point to this?
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
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This would be a net negative for the States involved, as they'd lose representation in the United States Senate (two Senators per State).
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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This would be a net negative for the States involved, as they'd lose representation in the United States Senate (two Senators per State).
California, Texas and Florida has a lot of people and area yet those three states have only 2 senators. It wouldn't make much difference if the 13 Northeastern States and DC merge into one state.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:51 PM
 
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California, Texas and Florida has a lot of people and area yet those three states have only 2 senators. It wouldn't make much difference if the 13 Northeastern States and DC merge into one state.
Are you implying 2 senators is enough for each of those three states? 2 senators would be even worse for an east coast mega state than what those three states already have!
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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VA? Goodness...Virginia is not northern..... I doubt a former Confederate state would merge into one state with a bunch of other northern states.
Outside of Northern Virginia, Virginia is southeastern. However, it is a transitional southeastern with considerable northeastern influences.

Over time, I expect that Virginia will gradually lose more of its southernness as its bigger metro areas like Richmond and Hampton Roads gain more population, become more developed and connected to Washington, DC and also become more liberal.

The above scenario is probably inevitable.
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
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California, Texas and Florida has a lot of people and area yet those three states have only 2 senators. It wouldn't make much difference if the 13 Northeastern States and DC merge into one state.
The States discussed would lose 24 Senators in the United States Senate, almost a quarter of the whole body. They'd have a greatly reduced ability to make their voices heard in the Federal government. How do you consider THAT not making a difference? Those 13 States would then have only the same amount of representation in the Senate as Wyoming!
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: WA
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I've always understood the Northeast to consist mainly of eleven states, those being ME, NH, VT, NY, CT, MA, RI, PA, NJ, MD and DE (I realize that the latter two are categorized as being part of the Southern U.S. per the Census Bureau, but for what I suppose are socio-cultural reasons, their inclusion as "Southern" doesn't seem to be widely accepted).

Anyway, the Northeast as I've defined it contributes 22 senators to the legislative branch, with all but four of them having a common party affiliation, making them a sort of voting block unto themselves. A loss of 20 senate members would be quite a large reduction of the region's political influence over the country as a whole, and this idea would be an extremely difficult sell for that reason alone.
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