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Old 05-16-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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I was surprised, though, that it's also Italian in PA. I thought there were more Germans and Irish in PA.
There are more Germans and Irish in PA but they came earlier than Italians and are well assimilated now so most of them speak English. In fact, I've never met anyone of Irish descent who can speak Irish Gaelic.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Me too. Suspect it's changed in the last decade. Also Western Massachustts has few Portuguese speakers (except for Ludlow). Living in Eastern MA would give a different impression.
True, though Eastern Mass has the lion's share of the population. I think the Portuguese/Brasilian/Cape Verdean/Azorean population in Massachusetts is around 800,000, with probably half or so actually speaking Portuguese (I think near 100% of the Brasilian pop is speaking Portuguese, many of whom are Portuguese-only).
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Having more French speakers (after the Spanish and English ones) in Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Louisiana, I would have suspected. I can even see Mississippi, where I bet some Cajun descendants live.

But in West Virginia and the Carolinas? Never would have guessed. I've been going to the Carolinas and stopping in W. Virginia for decades and have never, ever heard anyone speak any French. In fact I've heard more Native Americans talking their language (Cherokee?) than I've heard anyone speak French in the Carolinas. (Though I've always wondered why the river in Asheville is called French Broad River. There must be a story behind that.)

Oh well. Live and learn.
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Old 05-17-2014, 12:31 AM
 
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There are more Germans and Irish in PA but they came earlier than Italians and are well assimilated now so most of them speak English. In fact, I've never met anyone of Irish descent who can speak Irish Gaelic.
Oh me either, but my point was that I thought there were far less Italians in PA than Germans and Irish, and I really meant German. Not even sure why I put Irish in there, as I expected the language to be German, but still. I guess I associate Philly at least more with Irish than Italian and the rest of the state more German.
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Old 05-17-2014, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I think it's also related to the fact that "Chinese" isn't a single language; someone from China could be a speaker of Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkien, standard Mandarin, etc. I don't know how the US Census Bureau counts it, but the use of Chinese languages is extremely common, at least here in SF.
That's what the article said.

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Oh me either, but my point was that I thought there were far less Italians in PA than Germans and Irish, and I really meant German. Not even sure why I put Irish in there, as I expected the language to be German, but still. I guess I associate Philly at least more with Irish than Italian and the rest of the state more German.
Pittsburgh has a lot of Italians, Polish and Irish, plus the Germans. This is for Allegheny County:
http://www.city-data.com/county/Alle...County-PA.html


Most common first ancestries reported in Allegheny County (%):
German (20%)
Italian (15%)
Irish (13%)
Polish (7%)
English (5%)
United States or American (4%)
Slovak (3%)
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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French Creole in Florida = Haitians.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Yea, the Gujaratis in the NYC metro area are mostly in New Jersey and the state map shows it. NYC [where most of the state's Indian population is, though there's some in neighboring Nassau County] has a large Bangladeshi (Bengali speaking) population. Gujaratis tend to own small businesses (convenience stores, motels) more than most Indian groups, I suspect that's Gujaratis are the#1 Indian ethnicity as there's probably not much else of an Indian population otherwise.

As someone from a small touristy town in Pennsylvania said: there's Muslim immigrants here, they own the gas stations; Indian immigrants own the motels. Didn't sound like there were other Muslim/Indian immigrants that were there for other reasons.


Gujarati's are mainly in the NYC metro. A good amount of them, while Gujarat, migrate from Mumbai. Gujurats are known to take positions in Finance and start businesses. They tend to flock to NYC since it's more like Mumbai. That's been my experience. I've never seen direct migration out of Gujarat. It's always through Mumbai.

It's actually interesting. In Dallas the prominent Indian group is by far Telugu speakers from Audra Pradesh. When I was in Atlanta, this was also the case as well. However in the Bay Area the dominant Indian group are Punjabis, and I see more Pakistanis in the Bay.

If we go by NY alone, I would say that Hindi would be a spoken third language. There are a lot of Indian immigrants in the business world, I've worked with a ton over the years. Most Indians speak Hindi at the very least. The only noticeable group in US who don't speak Hindi are people from Tamil Nadu. But they aren't as common.
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Old 05-17-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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It looks like Spanish is everywhere.
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Old 05-17-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I thought Mandarin was more dominant
Not in the US, at least not historically. Most immigrants to the US came from Cantonese-speaking areas. And then there was the wave of immigrants from Hong Kong in the 1980s and 1990s. Mandarin speakers are relatively recent arrivals.
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Old 05-17-2014, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why don't you guys read the article? Here's what it says: ** "For instance, some people answered the ACS with “Chinese,” while others gave specific dialects such as “Mandarin” or “Cantonese”. These were all treated as different languages in the ACS data and when constructing these maps. (See the raw data here.) New York is marked “Chinese” because more people responded with “Chinese” than any other language other than English or Spanish. If all Chinese languages (or languages under the umbrella of a larger language family) had been grouped together, the answers for many states would change. In addition, Hawaiian is listed as a Pacific Island language, so following the ACS classifications, it was not included in the Native American languages map." **
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