Top 5 favorite and least favorite states (vacation, money, business)

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by 2018

I've been to several places in the LA metro and Bay Area, San Diego, Palm Springs, and up the coast from Santa Cruz.

Then you probably know about the great and varied scenery and the different types of climate all in one state. One of many reasons why California is so popular with many people.

SF's climate has little in common with Upstate NY and still less with the Upper Plains (which I prefer). I like snow and cold temperatures. This isn't found anywhere in CA except high in the Sierras, where nobody lives. Heck, even Tahoe has excessive highs in winter.

I wasn't comparing SF's climate to Upstate NY; I said that it has a cool climate year-'round, which is accurate.

Tahoe definitely does not have "excessive" highs in winter. The record high in January for Tahoe City is only 62 degrees and for South Lake Tahoe it is 60 degrees.

Incidentally, South Lake Tahoe has a population of 21,403.

Sounds like you would like Big Bear Lake (and Big Bear City) if you like snow and cold temperatures. The record low at Big Bear in January is -25 degrees (cold enough for you?) with an average January maximum of 47 degrees. Plenty of snow... average annual snow is 61.8" at the lake and the ridges bordering the lake sometimes receive 100". The Big Bear area is also rural, a plus for those who don't like big cities.

[2018]

Originally Posted by Fleet

Then you probably know about the great and varied scenery and the different types of climate all in one state. One of many reasons why California is so popular with many people.


I wasn't comparing SF's climate to Upstate NY; I said that it has a cool climate year-'round, which is accurate.

Tahoe definitely does not have "excessive" highs in winter. The record high in January for Tahoe City is only 62 degrees and for South Lake Tahoe it is 60 degrees.

Incidentally, South Lake Tahoe has a population of 21,403.

Sounds like you would like Big Bear Lake (and Big Bear City) if you like snow and cold temperatures. The record low at Big Bear in January is -25 degrees (cold enough for you?) with an average January maximum of 47 degrees. Plenty of snow... average annual snow is 61.8" at the lake and the ridges bordering the lake sometimes receive 100". The Big Bear area is also rural, a plus for those who don't like big cities.

You are persistent, I'll give you that.

Unfortunately, I don't think you know what the word "subjective" means. 47 might sound cold if you are used to sunny California beaches, but here in MN the average January high is 21 F and I wouldn't mind a little lower. Snow behaves differently with days in the 40s and nightly refreezing anyway.

I like subzero nights on the prairie with early winter darkness. I like blizzards. I like wind blowing across the fields of durum wheat and thunderheads building over the horizon far away. I like lonely little trees sticking up from the empty plains.

Even if you could find somewhere in CA with these things, it wouldn't matter. That would be like me telling beach-lovers to move to MN because we have sandy, swimmable lakes.

[Angelic_Avalon]

Fave
1. Connecticut/ All New England states
2. New York
3. Northern VA
4. Florida
5. Washington


Worst.
1. Utah
2. North Carolina
3. Nevada
4. GA
5. South Carolina

[Vlajos]

Best:
new england and great lakes states

Worst:
South

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by 2018

You are persistent, I'll give you that.

Unfortunately, I don't think you know what the word "subjective" means. 47 might sound cold if you are used to sunny California beaches, but here in MN the average January high is 21 F and I wouldn't mind a little lower. Snow behaves differently with days in the 40s and nightly refreezing anyway.

I like subzero nights on the prairie with early winter darkness. I like blizzards. I like wind blowing across the fields of durum wheat and thunderheads building over the horizon far away. I like lonely little trees sticking up from the empty plains.

Even if you could find somewhere in CA with these things, it wouldn't matter. That would be like me telling beach-lovers to move to MN because we have sandy, swimmable lakes.

Then I will put you in the category of those who like freezing weather and blizzards and frigid winds. You can "enjoy" all that and I will enjoy going for a bike ride at 4 PM in January in 70 degree weather! (See photo; taken in January.)

I do see where you are coming from, though. Some people love living in the desert and the desert landscape. I like the desert, but I probably wouldn't want to live there. Or high up in the mountains.

[BackInBlack22]

Best:
1.California (mostly Northern)
2.Colorado
3.Hawaii
4.North Carolina
5.Texas

Worst:
1.Idaho
2.North Dakota
3.Iowa
4.Indiana
5.Florida

[fruitlassie]

Best:
Oregon
Colorado
California
Washington
Hawaii


Worst:
Connecticut
Nebraska
Kansas
Delaware
Indiana

[A&M_Indie_08]

5 favorite

1) Texas
2) California
3) Oregon
4) Alaska
5) N Carolina

Dpn't have any that I dislike... there are good things about all the other states

[benbargold]

I am sorry about the WYOMING problem. I just got back from an amusement park that day and was hyper. I really hate it when I see 110+ kids who are only 9. I love Wyoming but I think it's boring compared to other states. I am a city person or a beach person. I don't always enjoy the mountains. I would rather climb on rocks and feel the warm sand and water at a beach.
Don't take this the wrong way. I love to hike and I think kids should run around trees instead of do a jog around a mcdonalds in a six flags. Wyoming is just not right for me and I am sorry. I love the east coast. I love nature but more in New England with a cup of warm apple cider and hear the sound of crunching colored leaves in the fall. I love Boston and the beach. If you can trick me into it I might think Wyoming is less boring. But it will be hard. Please tell me how Wyoming is similar to Massachusetts or Vermont or New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island or Upstate New York

[SmokyMtnPeace]

Best
Tennessee
Kentucky
Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina

Worst
Ohio
West Virginia
Florida
Maryland
Pennsylvania