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Old 06-03-2014, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Washington has one of the best settings in college football and an elite program,
Sorry, I thought you knew sports, but I was wrong. Washington is a terrible team, but it's the second biggest student body in the Pac 10, so attendance numbers will be inflated (even if they aren't anywhere near the levels you claim). It's not even worth going through the rest of your misinformation. You're not even aware of the recent sale of the Bucks with a provision saying they aren't going anywhere. It must suck to be in a large regional metro sans NBA, NHL, and a competitive MLB squad. Congrats on your first Super Bowl ever, though! Only a dozen more to match the Packers championships, as long as they never win another one, that is...
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Sorry, I thought you knew sports, but I was wrong. Washington is a terrible team, but it's the second biggest student body in the Pac 10, so attendance numbers will be inflated (even if they aren't anywhere near the levels you claim).
3 Rose Bowl wins and a National Championship over the last 25 years is nothing to sneeze at. Largest season ticket holder base in college football west of the continental divide.


Rose Bowl wins + Natl. titles (Big Ten and Pac-10/12) last 25 years:

USC - 8
Washington - 4
Michigan - 3
Ohio State - 3
Wisconsin - 3
Stanford - 1
Oregon - 1
Michigan State - 1

Also, Washington is only the 4th largest. The two Arizonas and UCLA are larger.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Pro sports teams (especially NFL since most of their games are nationally televised) give cities and their regions great recognition nationally.

Most people know that Green Bay is in NE Wisconsin. Without the Packers, doubt many would be able to pick it out from a map.

Snowy Denver Bronco games on TV excite people to fly to Denver and ski (although they still have to drive a few hours west to do so)
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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There are a bunch of other podunk minor league cities, like Oklahoma City, that have major league sports.


OKC has been an elite NBA franchise over the last few years, yet are in the bottom 5 in TV viewers because they play in such a pathetically small market. The team should be moved back to Seattle.
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It was from some sports business blog or journal. The local TV data came from Nielsen. OKC's TV market is relatively small, so despite high local ratings, the total # of people watching the team ranks poorly among the NBA franchises. New Orleans and Memphis were the bottom two.
That is not a source. This is a source, which by the way, does not list the OKC Thunder in the bottom five of audience size for 2012.
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Old 06-04-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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^ Real numbers

"The Oklahoma City Thunder finished the 2012-13 NBA season with the league’s highest average local TV rating."
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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A tier down comes three-team cities: Baltimore (they had the Bullets (now Wizards) for a decade), Cleveland, Seattle, St. Louis, Kansas City (they had an NBA team for over a decade), Tampa, San Diego (they had both the Rockets and the Clippers), Cincinnati (they had an NBA team in the late '50s-early '70s)
I find it curious you "judge" these cities for their sports teams, yet are ignorant of the fact that Cincinnati has only two major league teams.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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That is not a source. This is a source, which by the way, does not list the OKC Thunder in the bottom five of audience size for 2012.

"In Houston, ratings for Rockets games were similarly disappointing for the team’s first season on CSN Houston. The team’s 1.05 average rating was down 57 percent from last year, when its games were carried on FS Southwest."

The Rockets and the Astros, motivated by pure selfish greed, formed their own TV network, affiliated with ComCast, which excludes quite a lot of Metro Houston viewers, and virtually ALL viewers from the rest of southeast Texas, For two years now, there is no television of Astros and Rockets games over most of their fanbase.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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^ Real numbers

"The Oklahoma City Thunder finished the 2012-13 NBA season with the league’s highest average local TV rating."
WHICH RATES LOW IN TOTAL VIEWERS because OKC is tiny market.

Total the #s, OKC is bottom five IN TOTAL VIEWERS since moving to OKC.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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I find it curious you "judge" these cities for their sports teams, yet are ignorant of the fact that Cincinnati has only two major league teams.
If you would have read the OP, he clearly stated that he was counting cities that had teams for over a decade at some point, and now no longer have them. Why else would Hartford and Providence be included?
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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WHICH RATES LOW IN TOTAL VIEWERS because OKC is tiny market.

Total the #s, OKC is bottom five IN TOTAL VIEWERS since moving to OKC.
Comprehensive source/link?
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