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Old 06-10-2014, 06:28 AM
 
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Camden Co? Me thinks thou does not know what the hell they are talking about.
I have a pretty good grasp having lived in Philly in for 8 years. The point of the thread while you unbunch your undies is to talk about counties with high crime rates. Did Camden recently secede from Camden County and take it's uber-high crime rate with it?
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Miami Dade
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I have a pretty good grasp having lived in Philly in for 8 years. The point of the thread while you unbunch your undies is to talk about counties with high crime rates. Did Camden recently secede from Camden County and take it's uber-high crime rate with it?
No, but Camden is 10 square miles with a population of 70,000. Camden County is well over 200,000 square miles with a population of over 500,000-most of which reside in affluent and low crime suburbs.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Dade County is as rough as it gets.
Even though counties like Dade, Wayne (Detroit), Philadelphia and others might have high violent crime rates, they also have surrounding counties which can make things better statistically. Dade has a lot of areas in Broward and PB county that drop the area crime rates. Philly has areas in Camden, Gloucester, Chester, etc. that also drop the crime. Wayne has suburbs in 5 other counties.

OTOH, counties like San Joaquin (Stockton) and Genesee (Flint) are probably some of the worst it gets just because those counties are also isolated metro areas. There might not be enough good areas that are integrated with those metros.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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No, but Camden is 10 square miles with a population of 70,000. Camden County is well over 200,000 square miles with a population of over 500,000-most of which reside in affluent and low crime suburbs.
Granted, but the OP asked about most dangerous counties -- not portions of counties. I take this to mean that any comparison would have to be on a county-by-county basis. Unfortunately for Camden County, its namesake city really drags the rest of the place down, when considering overall crime stats. Whether or not it drags it down enough to qualify the whole place as being among the most dangerous counties overall, I don't know.

Not that the OP phrased it this way, but I would make a distinction between coterminous counties/cities (e.g. Philadelphia), counties that are dominated by a major city (e.g. Cook County, IL), and counties that are not dominated by a single city (e.g. Prince George's County, MD). I sort of imagine that the latter type is what the OP had in mind, though I don't know that for sure.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Even though counties like Dade, Wayne (Detroit), Philadelphia and others might have high violent crime rates, they also have surrounding counties which can make things better statistically. Dade has a lot of areas in Broward and PB county that drop the area crime rates. Philly has areas in Camden, Gloucester, Chester, etc. that also drop the crime. Wayne has suburbs in 5 other counties.

OTOH, counties like San Joaquin (Stockton) and Genesee (Flint) are probably some of the worst it gets just because those counties are also isolated metro areas. There might not be enough good areas that are integrated with those metros.
The OP asked about counties, not metropolitan areas. Miami-Dade is a separate county from Broward and Palm Beach, even though I believe they are grouped together into the same metro area. Likewise for Philadelphia County or Wayne County vs. its suburbs.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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The OP asked about counties, not metropolitan areas. Miami-Dade is a separate county from Broward and Palm Beach, even though I believe they are grouped together into the same metro area. Likewise for Philadelphia County or Wayne County vs. its suburbs.
I know what the OP asked. I'm talking about how counties which also happen to metros can be worse than a county that has a lot of other areas nearby.
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Old 06-10-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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Lets be real Miami-Dade isn't all bad and anyone who has lived there should know this.
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Old 06-10-2014, 02:25 PM
 
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I know what the OP asked. I'm talking about how counties which also happen to metros can be worse than a county that has a lot of other areas nearby.
What Lord is saying how many of these counties other than Prince George's County or even Baltimore County are excluding major cities.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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Nonsense. How can you make such a claim? Yes there are some dangerous neighborhoods in North Philly such as parts of Kensington and Feltonville and South-West Philly like Kingsessing ... but ...

1. Crime rates have dropped consistently here and the crime rate has dropped to a 40 year low. The murder rate is at a 50 year low.

2. Neighborhoodscout (google it, it rates cities not counties) every year lists the most dangerous cities in the US from #1 (most dangerous) to #100 (least dangerous). Philly comes in at #60 ... not #5 or #10 or #20.

3. According to the FBI many cities have many more crimes, arrests, break-ins, assaults, car-jackings, murders, etc. - for example: Atlanta, GA; Birmingham, AL; Flint, MI; St. Louis, MO; Memphis, TN; Cleveland, OH; Minneapolis, MN; and Miami, FL.
We are talking about COUNTIES! Not cities or neighborhoods.

Philadelphia is incorporated with its county, so sorry, but that makes the county quite dangerous. Possibly the most dangerous in the country.

Take Atlanta for example though, Fulton county has all those nice suburbs north of the actual city limits of Atlanta to dilute the homicide rate for the county. Philadelphia didn't do that.

Philadelphia county should merge with its surrounding county to give itself a lower crime rate.
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