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Old 06-17-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I think NCAA college football conferences, ought to decide what regions are.

These pairs are now in football conferences together:

Houston / Connecticut 1,774 miles
Boston College / Miami, Florida 1,489
West Virginia / Texas Tech (Lubbock) 1,485
Washington / Arizona State 1.417
Nebraska / Rutgers 1.288
Missouri / South Carolina 870 (Both in Columbia!)

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Old 06-17-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Some football fans just call it "Big Ten country". I think Cleveland, Detroit, Toledo, Milwaukee, Chicago, Gary, Buffalo, Niagara Falls etc. have a common Great Lakes culture. Some expand it into Pennsylvania and call it the Rust Belt.

I would put KC, Twin Cities, Omaha, Des Moines, Lincoln, Topeka, Witchita and possibly even Oklahoma City into another "grain belt" group of cities.

Corn Belt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

St. Louis seems to have a little of both worlds. They have a big beer (grain) company, Busch, but share a lot of traits and development patterns with the lake cities.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Raccoon City
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The Great Lake and Plains mix of the Midwest works for me. When I lived in the Great Plain, they thought they were the Midwest. However, now that I live in the Great Lakes, I've met some people who don't think of the Great Plains as the Midwest. But the history of this region really does tie these states together with Chicago being to economic heart of it all.

Cities like Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland, etc are representative Chicago's industrial strength, but cities like Omaha, Minneapolis, and Kansas City represent Chicago's mastery of the agro-industrial sector. Kansas City, for instance, like Chicago was a major hub for the railroads, a conduit of the jazz movement, and was a major meat processing center with its vast stockyards. In fact, the Kansas City Board of Trade was recently acquired by CBOT, so now Chicago controls Kansas's winter wheat. And culturally I haven't found them to be all that different. As child of the Great Plains, I certainly felt more of a connection to Chicago than I did to a place like New York.

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Old 06-17-2014, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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The Great Lake and Plains mix of the Midwest works for me. When I lived in the Great Plain, they thought they were the Midwest. However, now that I live in the Great Lakes, I've met some people who don't think of the Great Plains as the Midwest. But the history of this region really does tie these states together with Chicago being to economic heart of it all.

Cities like Detroit, Milwaukee, Cleveland, etc are representative Chicago's industrial strength, but cities like Omaha, Minneapolis, and Kansas City represent Chicago's mastery of the agro-industrial sector. Kansas City, for instance, like Chicago was a major hub for the railroads, a conduit of the jazz movement, and was a major meat processing center with its vast stockyards. In fact, the Kansas City Board of Trade was recently acquired by CBOT, so now Chicago controls Kansas's winter wheat. And culturally I haven't found them to be all that different. As child of the Great Plains, I certainly felt more of a connection to Chicago than I did to a place like New York.
Ha! You really think the world revolves around Chicago? Cleveland and Detroit are not "representative" of Chicago's anything. They were strong industrial cities, that were connected to each other and Pittsburgh for the various stages and components of automobile manufacturing. As a life-long Clevelander, I feel very little connection with Chicago economically, culturally, or sentimentally. I feel a much closer connection with the East Coast culturally, although we're tempered with some midwestern niceness. Chicago on the other hand is midwest all the way, from the accents to the attitudes, not that that's a bad thing, it's just not us.

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Old 06-17-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Labels are for beer bottles. I'll never understand this forum's fascination with labels. Who gives a crap?
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago (from pittsburgh)
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Labels are for beer bottles. I'll never understand this forum's fascination with labels. Who gives a crap?
Meh. Human nature?
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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[quote=Cleverfield;35274071]I don't think these regions work either. Illinois isn't really that different from Iowa or Missouri, and Minnesota and Wisconsin are pretty different from Ohio and Indiana. Really, I see the "Midwest" grouped like this...

Region 1: Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Western Indiana
Region 2: Minnesota, Wisconsin, UP Michigan
Region 3: Eastern Indiana, Western Ohio, Southern Michigan
Region 4: Eastern Ohio, Western PA, Western NY, Northwestern West Virginia

I realize some people don't want to call Region 4 the midwest. But I'd argue that whatever you want to call it, these areas should be grouped together.

Anything West of Iowa is Great Planes.[/QUOTE]

It's "Great PLAINS".

We're not talking about oversized Boeing 747s.
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:34 PM
 
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We're also forgettong the exclusive, all-important region of southern North Dakota and northern South Dakota.

A little joke for you spring wheat buffs out there..
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Labels are for beer bottles. I'll never understand this forum's fascination with labels. Who gives a crap?
Because it's fun and interesting for some people and you don't need to participate if you don't want to.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:04 AM
 
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Meh. Human nature?
I think the average human being would look at the way things are categorized and analyzed on C-D and be baffled by why so much energy is put into it. Especially the countless threads of emotionally charged rhetoric and debate over things are mostly opinion and homer based. Things that can't be verified scientifically at all. We here are a special breed, but somebody has got to love us!

Back to topic I have long thought that the Great lakes region and the rest of the midwest aren't always perfect fits for each other.
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