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Old 06-30-2014, 06:13 AM
 
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Hi all,

My Fiance, daughter and I are looking for a place to relocate. Residing in Phoenix, Arizona we do not want to spend the rest of our lives in the desert, heat and climate. It does not work for us.

She is pharmacy technician and I am involved with IT and Business Administration. We are looking for a place to relocate to and we would have never thought that things are gonna be so tricky, difficult and also expensive (ha...!).
Of course, we were looking at many many different states. She is originally from Cleveland, Ohio. She loves the climate and the overall landscape in the Midwest very much, as I do aswell. We both are not sure about schools and the school system in Ohio and especially the job market. We both know that Ohio has struggled a lot. High unemployment in the Cleveland area, crime, Youngstown was bad for long a time aswell.


We were looking at Pennsylvania (she could transfer to Pittsburgh or Harrisburg and has friends in Warren), Maine and the Vermont region (high taxes, high costs of living, and high unemployment scared us for sure, although the landscape is beautiful and amazing, exactly what we love!). From looking at New England and being shocked how expensive life is over there, we were looking at PA (we have heard the have great colleges, so thats good) to Wisconsin and Minnesota.
We were stuck with Wisconsin for a long time. Simply because that state offers so much, good schools, great environment, great culture (I am a german myself!) but then again: We of course would like to relocate in order to get settled and buy a home, at least with 2 - 3 acres of land. A small hobby farm in the country. Close enough to a bigger city, yet off the land. Thing is: Wisconsin and their property taxes! Its scary! We were doing so much research and we have been told to stay away from WI if we dont wanna end up being poor... and taxing ourselves to the point of poverty.
Then we went on to 2 other states: Washington state around the Seattle area and Idaho, Boise. My Fiance has been to WA a few times before and she loved it. Yet we dont know much about their taxes and overall costs of living; sure we know that Seattle is definetly one of the more expensive cities and about Boise, well, its still in the high desert. And we dont wanna live anywhere with desert around us. Idaho has lots of forests aswell, but not around Boise. We dont like droughts and as said, we need a place where we can get settled, buying a nice home with 2 - 3 acres, having a nice garden and some livestock perhaps aswell. Wildfires and droughts are "abundant" in Arizona and we dont like it.

It is very important to us that we could find a place with our jobs, a nice school and cheap land availability. Buying our own house/small hobby farm is important to us and our family, it is one of our major goals and we try to find our balance with that goal and maintaining a good availability to schools or colleges.

Yeah, it does sound crazy, we have looked into so many states. Its just overwhelming. We just want to make sure we do the right thing. And we better make sure that we do our homework and research, instead of just relocating with a 4 year old girl and afterwards feeling regret over it. Nope, we dont need that.


What do you think? Any hints or advice?
Thank you all

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Old 06-30-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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What is your price range for your house/farm? That'll help determine.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Cleveland's economy has actually improved a lot in the last 10 years.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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Hi Kyle: 250 000 - 290 000 dollars.

@Cleverfield: Well, what about schools and jobs? My Fiance has worked in Cleveland in 2012 and she said it was extremely hard to a) land a job and b) the pay was horrible in her career. So I dont know. Sure thing is that OHIO has its nice areas, especially the southeast/appalachian ohio, but jobs are scarce there aswell.

thank you

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Old 06-30-2014, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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If you consider Madison a big enough city, grab a farm west of there in the Driftless Area. Taxes and land are fairly cheap and it's fertile land - also, very beautiful land. You'd have to go around 45 minutes to get out of Dane County (high taxes) and beyond Madison commuters. Try Sauk, Juneau, Richland or Iowa counties maybe?

If you want to use Milwaukee as the "near" city, you'd need to go north for the best deals. You could do Jefferson County, between Milwaukee/Madison, but it would be a bit more expensive than out in the morraines (Dodge/Fond Du Lac/Calumet Counties).
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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Thank you very much cheese plate !
What can you tell me about schools and overall COL around Madison?
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Maybe parts of Upstate NY could work. While property taxes can be high, home prices are pretty low and overall cost of living is around the national average, give or take. I think you should be able to find something in terms of jobs, as should the other half, but it may be a little tougher.

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Old 06-30-2014, 08:18 AM
 
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Madison itself is fairly expensive for a Midwestern city of its size, but comes with oversized amenities. I'm no expert on it, though, as I only lived there for a short time many years ago. I know schools are very good there and overall throughout the state. You could also pose questions in the Milwaukee or Madison forums if you really want an "expert" on those specific issues.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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ckhthankgod: Do you know about Jobs there in our careers? We never considered upstate NY but thank you for your suggestion! Are schools ok though? Where would one find work; Rochester?

Cheese plate: We would love to work in the bigger Cites like Madison or Milwaukee - but we would NOT wanna live in the city. We would want to rent in the outskirts or outside the city. For that Id even take a 45 min drive. Its awesome to hear that schools are good. We would be just worried about property taxes - if we would buy property and COL/landing jobs. Of course we need financial stabiltiy for our family. Thank you for your help !
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:29 AM
 
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ckhthankgod: Do you know about Jobs there in our careers? We never considered upstate NY but thank you for your suggestion! Are schools ok though? Where would one find work; Rochester?

Cheese plate: We would love to work in the bigger Cites like Madison or Milwaukee - but we would NOT wanna live in the city. We would want to rent in the outskirts or outside the city. For that Id even take a 45 min drive. Its awesome to hear that schools are good. We would be just worried about property taxes - if we would buy property and COL/landing jobs. Of course we need financial stabiltiy for our family. Thank you for your help !
Look at my previous post, as I added some more info. Rochester has arguably the best school district in Upstate NY in Pittsford. If you want rural and good schools, look into places like East Aurora, Cazenovia, Skaneateles, Victor, Lewiston-Porter, Clinton, Owego-Apalachin, parts of the Ithaca City SD, Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake, Averill Park, Schuylerville and some others. This should help too: 2013 Upstate New York school district rankings - Business First

You may want to see this too: Property tax exemptions

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