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Old 07-07-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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Very impressive for only 20k!
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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I'm shocked nobody has yet mentioned Santa Fe, NM.

Asheville, NC and Portland, ME round out the top three for me.

ETA: Traverse City, MI as well - only 14k but it anchors a metro area ten times it size. And when you throw in the tourism, it definitely feels quite a bit more vibrant than its population would suggest.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Portland's MSA population is over 500k, but other than that it's a good pick.

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I DO NOT want suburbs. I want independent cities.

Which ones have the most "cool" factor? Most urban build? Most vibrant? Best environment?
Burlington's (VT) MSA is a bit above your 200k cutoff but it otherwise fits your criteria -- cool, relatively urban, great environment with Lake Champlain and the Green Mountains close by.

Always loved Portsmouth, NH. Marietta, OH hasn't been mentioned, it has great architecture and nice surroundings. Williamsport, PA as well, although I'm not sure about 'vibrant'. Never cared much for State College or Morgantown, I like college towns but to me, they always seemed to combine big city traffic with small town isolation. Ithaca is much much better (though it still has traffic).
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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I'm shocked nobody has yet mentioned Santa Fe, NM.

Asheville, NC and Portland, ME round out the top three for me.
As I explained earlier in the thread, I am looking more for the lesser known gems. Not knocking your suggestions at all, just explaining why Santa Fe hadn't been mentioned yet.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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As I explained earlier in the thread, I am looking more for the lesser known gems. Not knocking your suggestions at all, just explaining why Santa Fe hadn't been mentioned yet.
OK - then prob want to throw out Portland and Asheville as well. Traverse City I think is still more or less a "hidden gem". Maybe also Couer d'Alene, ID - city 44k metro 140k.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Portland's MSA population is over 500k, but other than that it's a good pick.



Burlington's (VT) MSA is a bit above your 200k cutoff but it otherwise fits your criteria -- cool, relatively urban, great environment with Lake Champlain and the Green Mountains close by.

Always loved Portsmouth, NH. Marietta, OH hasn't been mentioned, it has great architecture and nice surroundings. Williamsport, PA as well, although I'm not sure about 'vibrant'. Never cared much for State College or Morgantown, I like college towns but to me, they always seemed to combine big city traffic with small town isolation. Ithaca is much much better (though it still has traffic).
I am not worried if cities barely miss the cut-off, Portland is a bit high for metro population but I aint gonna freak about a suggestion being slightly outside the criteria.

I LOVE Portsmouth, NH. A true gem. Burlington is awesome too.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Very impressive for only 20k!
There are actually many cool towns like this Some closer to cities and some not

I know these are not your criteria but towns like West Chester PA, Doylestown PA, and Phoenixville PA to name a few are interesting in that they have a small town feel and close to cities. But these towsn dot the landscape around places like Boston, NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC etc.

Here is a personal favorite in Doylestown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RP6DJ46CAU

Great art and dinning scene
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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Welcome to Downtown Adrian Michigan
Welcome to the City of Adrian, Michigan | City of Adrian


Adrian Michigan - YouTube
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:58 PM
 
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OK - then prob want to throw out Portland and Asheville. Traverse City I think would still be a consideration though.
I am not "throwing out" anyone's suggestions, just trying to let people know what I am looking for personally. Traverse City is a little small, but it is still a cool place! Definitely a cool place.
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