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Old 07-21-2014, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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Usually the TX and CA detractors are just jealous. Try living in one of the states that even facts can't make detractors quiet down.
I do enjoy San Francisco and coastal Northern California, but the Central Valley is my least favorite place in the world. It's impoverished, lacks natural beauty, it's polluted, no fine arts or culture.

I have enjoyed something about every state I've visited, even Indiana, even North Dakota, but if the Central Valley were its own state, than that would be the sole bad state.
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: LBC
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I do enjoy San Francisco and coastal Northern California, but the Central Valley is my least favorite place in the world. It's impoverished, lacks natural beauty, it's polluted, no fine arts or culture.

I have enjoyed something about every state I've visited, even Indiana, even North Dakota, but if the Central Valley were its own state, than that would be the sole bad state.

While thereís some truth, thatís a mighty broad brush youíre wielding. It also suggests little recognition of the damage all us are in some way are responsible for having inflicted on the fragile ecosystem that once had been known as the American Sergenti. Itís now is responsible for a hugely disproportionate amount of our produce, such that the entire floor of the worldís largest valley has dropped 25 feet: http://mavensnotebook.com/wp-content...ephonepole.jpg

The Carrizo Plain is a reminder. https://www.google.com/search?q=carr...w=1463&bih=726 And itís the gateway to Sequoia, Kings Canyon and Yosemite National Parks. A little respect is in order.
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Old 07-22-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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While thereís some truth, thatís a mighty broad brush youíre wielding. It also suggests little recognition of the damage all us are in some way are responsible for having inflicted on the fragile ecosystem that once had been known as the American Sergenti. Itís now is responsible for a hugely disproportionate amount of our produce, such that the entire floor of the worldís largest valley has dropped 25 feet: http://mavensnotebook.com/wp-content...ephonepole.jpg

The Carrizo Plain is a reminder. https://www.google.com/search?q=carr...w=1463&bih=726 And itís the gateway to Sequoia, Kings Canyon and Yosemite National Parks. A little respect is in order.
Yeah, all that industrial farming...it borders some nice areas, for sure, but I have to agree that it's not exactly a place to take the kids for vacation. I've heard the Great Plains called the "American Serengeti" quite regularly, but not Central Valley: http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/product/dvds/animals-and-nature/animals-and-wildlife/american-serengeti-dvd

I don't know a ton about the area historically, what it used to be/how the valley floor is dropping so drastically, so I'm off to check it out
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