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Old 07-24-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
Wow. That article was ridiculous before but now it's out of control.

Is there any other region of the country people so desperately want their state to be included in?
Yup. First thing I noticed is that the map has been changed. One of the weakness of Wikipedia is people with agenda can often sway the article one way or another. But like I said I do not think anyone here in the Northeast would think they are in the same region as Illinois or Indiana, except of course as part of the greater "North". And vice versa for that matter. Except for maybe some in Ohio, I doubt Midwesterners think themselves as part of the Northeast.

Now if we were to start from scratch and divide the 48 continental states into roughly 4 equal regions - NE, SE, NW and SW, then I can see the Great Lake States being part of a new expanded Northeast. But until that happens the Wikipedia map is just plain wrong.
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I'll take this


over "diymaps.net"
Really? Seems the Census is a bit schizophrenic:


https://www.census.gov/history/www/c...l_offices.html
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:34 AM
 
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Its kind of funny Muppethammer26, there is also a guy on the Wikipedia website named Muppethammer26 talking about the same exact subject! He is in the "talk" section of the article, near the bottom under "Kentucky, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin".

Talk:Northeastern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Could that be you?

Anyway I se the map in the Wiki Northeast article has been changed and not for the better. I don't know ANYONE in the New York area who considers Wisconsin, Illinois or Indiana to be Northeast states. Maybe they should be (if you evenly divide the 48 continental states into 4 sections it makes sense) but right now, NO. The same goes for West Virginia. Maybe a few folks in western PA think West Virginia is part of the Northeast but I doubt anyone in New York, New England or New Jersey does.
That is too funny.

Not sure what muppethammer26's issue/obsession with defining regions in a completely ridiculous manner is, but it is quite entertaining. And a bit tiresome, though.
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Old 07-24-2014, 01:25 PM
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That is too funny.

Not sure what muppethammer26's issue/obsession with defining regions in a completely ridiculous manner is, but it is quite entertaining. And a bit tiresome, though.
This is because I think is funny when I hear some people that like to call Maryland a southern state, etc.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Really? Seems the Census is a bit schizophrenic:


https://www.census.gov/history/www/c...l_offices.html
Even there, the Census is not giving geographic designations. Unless, that is, "Philadelphia" is now a region that includes Ohio and Tennessee.

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This is because I think is funny when I hear some people that like to call Maryland a southern state, etc.
Looks like you've got some work to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:58 PM
 
Location: SW Pennsylvania
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West Virginia could literally be split in half. The northern half is basically part of the interior Northeast, and the southern half is part of the interior South.

A lot of people think West Virginia is the same throughout (Southern Appalachian) but it's actually quite diverse for such a small and rural state. However, one thing that all West Virginians share is the hills that cover the entire state and a connection to them.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:16 PM
 
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Really? Seems the Census is a bit schizophrenic:


https://www.census.gov/history/www/c...l_offices.html
That map just separates widely by 6 major cities. What does that prove about regions? I didn't know Tennessee had anything to do with Philly, or Puerto Rico with NYC, let alone Texas with Denver (that would certainly p*ss off a lot of Texans, I presume, who have incredible state pride and would probably like to see their own city on that map above one in Colorado). Seems totally random to me, and like it's just done out of some sort of convenience, though I couldn't tell you who that is convenient to.

It is interesting though that they chose Philly and NYC seeing as they're only 90 miles apart.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Its kind of funny Muppethammer26, there is also a guy on the Wikipedia website named Muppethammer26 talking about the same exact subject! He is in the "talk" section of the article, near the bottom under "Kentucky, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin".

Talk:Northeastern United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Could that be you?

Anyway I se the map in the Wiki Northeast article has been changed and not for the better. I don't know ANYONE in the New York area who considers Wisconsin, Illinois or Indiana to be Northeast states. Maybe they should be (if you evenly divide the 48 continental states into 4 sections it makes sense) but right now, NO. The same goes for West Virginia. Maybe a few folks in western PA think West Virginia is part of the Northeast but I doubt anyone in New York, New England or New Jersey does.
That's hilarious. Half of the Midwest is "sometimes" included in definitions of the Northeast? Ridiculous.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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West Virginia could literally be split in half. The northern half is basically part of the interior Northeast, and the southern half is part of the interior South.
I'd argue it's more like the northern third than northern half of WV which doesn't feel totally southern. Basically the northern Panhandle, down the Ohio to Parkersburg, the band of civilization from Morgantown to Clarksburg, and these days the eastern Panhandle. Then there's a whole lot of nothing till Charleston, which is solidly southern feeling.
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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By most of those standards, Indianapolis is a southern city, and New Orleans isn't.
New Orleans is an atypical city in the south, much like Miami.

It is debatable whether New Orleans is even culturally southern anymore.
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