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Old 08-26-2014, 05:11 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Chicago drains into Lake Michigan-Huron which then leads to the St Lawrence River into the Atlantic. So Chicago, Duluth, Detriot, Cleveland and Milwaukee all are Northeastern cities according to you.
No, not according to me.
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Old 08-26-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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No, not according to me.
According to you the St Lawrence River does not drain the Great Lakes into the Atlantic or your own definition is wrong by your own admittance
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Old 08-26-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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Serious question...How old are you Muppet? And where did you come from?
I frequently wonder this, too. Also, muppet speaks of NJ through the lens of the southern half of the state and often speaks for the whole state... and South Jersey is not exactly the "leading" part, you could say. It is definitely not the more populated half, for one, and I think the NYC influenced part of NJ is much much stronger and stereotypically, is what people think of.

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If Maryland wants to be southern, then Maryland should annex Delaware and have Atlantic, Cape May, Cumberland and Salem Counties of NJ join Maryland.
... No. All of NJ always has been (maybe it was a "Middle Colony" but it was definitely not southern EVER) and always will be northern, no matter what. The debated states start with DE. Leave NJ, and NY and PA for that matter, out of this as they are uncontested northeastern states, all parts of them, always.
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:40 AM
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According to you the St Lawrence River does not drain the Great Lakes into the Atlantic or your own definition is wrong by your own admittance
The Great Lakes doesn't count. The only rivers that drain into the Atlantic that makes the states eligible for being Northeastern are Kennebec River, Connecticut River, Hudson River, Delaware River, Susquehanna River, Potomac River and James River. That's it.
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:28 PM
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I frequently wonder this, too. Also, muppet speaks of NJ through the lens of the southern half of the state and often speaks for the whole state... and South Jersey is not exactly the "leading" part, you could say. It is definitely not the more populated half, for one, and I think the NYC influenced part of NJ is much much stronger and stereotypically, is what people think of.



... No. All of NJ always has been (maybe it was a "Middle Colony" but it was definitely not southern EVER) and always will be northern, no matter what. The debated states start with DE. Leave NJ, and NY and PA for that matter, out of this as they are uncontested northeastern states, all parts of them, always.
Delaware should be a uncontested northeastern state too, since Delaware used to be part of Pennsylvania and Delaware is a small state, so no need to split a state into 2 or more regions. No part of Delaware are part of another region, just Northeastern.
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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The Great Lakes doesn't count. The only rivers that drain into the Atlantic that makes the states eligible for being Northeastern are Kennebec River, Connecticut River, Hudson River, Delaware River, Susquehanna River, Potomac River and James River. That's it.
NWrn Vermont/Northeastern NYS (Again St Lawrence) and Northern Maine (St Johns River) Rhode Island (Providence and Blackstone rivers) are not Northeastern but Southern VA are?
Your rules are wrong Richmond VA is not more Northeastern than Burlington VT
Before you make the rules you should learn Geography.

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Old 08-27-2014, 06:53 PM
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NWrn Vermont/Northeastern NYS (Again St Lawrence) and Northern Maine (St Johns River) Rhode Island (Providence and Blackstone rivers) are not Northeastern but Southern VA are?
Your rules are wrong Richmond VA is not more Northeastern than Burlington VT
Before you make the rules you should learn Geography.
I have never heard of St Johns, Providence and Blackstone rivers. They could count too since these three rivers are in Maine and Rhode Island.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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Look at DC on a map, now look Due north
So even if DC was Northern it would be iffy if it was EASTERN at all it would land between Syracuse and Rochester. A Characteristic of the SE is how far West the Coastal plain is, even Philly that is a whole state from the Atlantic is farther east than any major city south of it, including Hamton a Roads.
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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Look at DC on a map, now look Due north
So even if DC was Northern it would be iffy if it was EASTERN at all it would land between Syracuse and Rochester. A Characteristic of the SE is how far West the Coastal plain is, even Philly that is a whole state from the Atlantic is farther east than any major city south of it, including Hamton a Roads.
I've never thought of it like that before, interesting point.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:49 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Look at DC on a map, now look Due north
So even if DC was Northern it would be iffy if it was EASTERN at all it would land between Syracuse and Rochester. A Characteristic of the SE is how far West the Coastal plain is, even Philly that is a whole state from the Atlantic is farther east than any major city south of it, including Hamton a Roads.
That's a distinction that all five Bos-Washington cities can make. What city can that the city southwest of it is too far west? If you're in Baltimore and going due east to the ocean, you'd have to go pass Delaware and New Jersey before you get to the ocean.
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