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Old 09-01-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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If the Delaware Bay is the answer for the southern border, then Pennsylvania is not a northeastern state too since it is on the other side of the Delaware River.
Aha - key words bay and river.

The Delaware River separates Pennsylvania and New Jersey primarily by east and west. But the Delaware Bay, which becomes wider then the River, separates New Jersey and Delaware primarily in a Northeast-Southwest direction.

Also ALL of Pennsylvania is above the Mason-Dixon line. Extreme southern New Jersey is the exception not Pennsylvania.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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The Delaware/Pennsylvania border is only 25 miles from Philadelphia PA. I found that Delaware is very similar to New Jersey physically (both have urban areas in the north, have state capitals in the middle, and have forests, farms and beaches in the south, sandwiched between two metropolitan areas (New York/Philadelphia for NJ, Philadelphia/Baltimore/Washington for DE), both used to be part of another state (NJ was part of NY, DE was part of PA)).
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I think NJ and CT are more similar.
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New Jersey borders Delaware, but New Jersey doesn't border Connecticut, so New Jersey would be more likely to have similarities to Delaware than Connecticut.
I think that whether New Jersey is more similar to Delaware or Connecticut will depend on what part of New Jersey you are talking about.

Regarding Muppet, you make a good point about Delaware and New Jersey - especially southern New Jersey. If you took a couple of the low lying counties in southern New Jersey, say like Salem, Cumberland, Atlantic and Cape May; you could pretty much duplicate the state of Delaware. What is different and here JerseyGirl is right is northern New Jersey. For instance, New Jersey has hills and small mountains in its suburbs like the Palisades, the Ramapos or the Watchhung mountains. So does parts of suburban and urban Connecticut.

Watchung Mountains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:52 AM
 
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New Jersey borders Delaware, but New Jersey doesn't border Connecticut, so New Jersey would be more likely to have similarities to Delaware than Connecticut.
Russia Borders North Korea but not Moldova, but is Russia more like Moldova (a former Soviet Slavic state) or North Korea?
That is flawed Logic, NJ has what 3 roads that enter DE while the MTA connects NJ to CT as well as media markets, and Sports teams, etc.
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Schenectady, NY
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I think NJ and CT are more similar.
NJ - crabbiest Mid-Atlantic people
CT - crabbiest New England people
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Old 09-01-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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NJ - crabbiest Mid-Atlantic people
CT - crabbiest New England people
Meanwhile, New York's a ray of sunshine...
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Old 09-01-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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And everyone knows "the government" is always right.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:12 AM
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This comes to conclusion that the Northeast has 11 states:

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
New York
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
Delaware
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Maryland
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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This comes to conclusion that the Northeast has 11 states:

Maine
New Hampshire
Vermont
New York
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
Delaware
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Maryland
Someone didn't read the first 121 pages :-)
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:15 AM
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Someone didn't read the first 121 pages :-)
That is the most common definition.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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That is the most common definition.
It is one definition. In my opinion and in many others and historical facts AND by the US. Census, it's wrong. Cultural changes do not move regional lines.

Now if you want to say that your definition is what most accurately describes the cultural definition of what is included in the northeast then maybe you might be able to make an argument. But using those points to move regional lines would mean that we would need to make adjustments consistently... and everywhere all of the time. It's silly and doesn't make any sense.
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