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Old 10-02-2014, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Looks more like half to me. The northern most tip of the line in Delaware runs parallel with the MD and PA border... then pretty much splits the state in half and continues eastward.

So some of the state is north of the southern most part of the Mason Dixon line while also south of the northernmost bit in almost all of Delaware.

Truly confusing






At most you could say that half of Delaware is north of the southern most part of the Mason Dixon. I don't think one could ever argue that all of Delaware is northeast of the line... not even close.
You insult Muppethammer and call him ignorant and a waste of life for having a different viewpoint, yet you post this ridiculous Civil War map with a dubious white Mason Dixon line cutting through Maryland and Delaware and stretching all the way to Missouri. And that is in addition to claiming that Delaware is not northeast of the line.
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Old 10-02-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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You insult Muppethammer and call him ignorant and a waste of life for having a different viewpoint, yet you post this ridiculous Civil War map with a dubious white Mason Dixon line cutting through Maryland and Delaware and stretching all the way to Missouri. And that is in addition to claiming that Delaware is not northeast of the line.
I said he was a waste of effort, there's quite a difference. I also said that at least half is not northeast of the line and that is a fact.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: USA
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How do people define the western border of Delaware? Is that
not an extension of the Mason-Dixon line too?
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:14 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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How do people define the western border of Delaware? Is that
not an extension of the Mason-Dixon line too?
Yes it is.

People have been debating whether Delaware is north of the Mason-Dixon line, meaning the PA and MA border. A very small part of Delaware is. But ALL of Delaware is east of the Mason-Dixon line. So I guess that makes Delaware truly part of the Northeast, with emphasis on the east.

Not to mention that many of us regard the Mason-Dixon line to be outdated with regards to Maryland, although that is a different story.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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Are a few here forgetting that the line seperates DE from MD along DE's southern border. I forget the actual southeast corner where the border turns east but the eastern most point is about 40/50 miles east on the border between Ocean City, MD and Fenwick Island DE.

The actual line only divides MD with PA on the northern border and then drops southward where PA meets DE, then turns east somewere west of Delmar MD/DE and ends at O cean City, MD and Fenwick Island DE. It does not extend west past MD and does not go into NJ.

No big deal though just throwing some info out there as some here seem to forget about a 50 mile section of the line, that the whole state of DE sits north and east of it and that it does not continue out west.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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^ Thank you two. At least some of us gets it.
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Mid-Michigan by way of Northern New Hampshire
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Some people have a very liberal definition of the "South." Lumping Delaware into the South is just ludicrous. Does Delaware have a lot in common with Maine and New Hampshire? No, but it has even less in common with Mississippi and Alabama.
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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The Census Bureau only considers 3 states to be Mid-Atlantic but that really doesn't mean anything in my opinion they separate regions for administrative purposes. Those 3 states have a very high population thus are harder to manage for the agency. The 10 Standard Federal Regions are the guidelines that the govt goes by and they show the Mid-Atlantic as being Delaware, D.C., Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia. The Bureau of Economic Analysis regions make no sense at all they have a region called the "Mid-East" That New York is in but WV and VA are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_states

Last edited by wanderlust76; 10-03-2014 at 11:11 AM.. Reason: posted wrong link
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Some people have a very liberal definition of the "South." Lumping Delaware into the South is just ludicrous. Does Delaware have a lot in common with Maine and New Hampshire? No, but it has even less in common with Mississippi and Alabama.
What's a "liberal" definition? I looked up liberal in the dictionary and got...



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1. open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
"they have more liberal views toward marriage and divorce than some people"
"liberal citizenship laws"
synonyms: tolerant, unprejudiced, unbigoted, broad-minded, open-minded, enlightened; More
(in a political context) favoring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform.
"a liberal democratic state"
synonyms: progressive, advanced, modern, forward-looking, forward-thinking, progressivist, enlightened, reformist, radical
"a liberal social agenda"
of or characteristic of Liberals or a Liberal Party.
adjective: Liberal
(in the UK) of or relating to the Liberal Democrat Party.
adjective: Liberal
"the Liberal leader"
THEOLOGY
regarding many traditional beliefs as dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
2.
(of education) concerned mainly with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.

Not sure how that mixes in...
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Old 10-03-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The Census Bureau only considers 3 states to be Mid-Atlantic but that really doesn't mean anything in my opinion they separate regions for administrative purposes.
The Census did not create its regions for administrative purposes.

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The partition of the geographic regions of the United States goes back to the colonial period of American history. By the 18th century, New England, the Middle Atlantic, and the South were agreed to be the major sections of the Atlantic seaboard. These colonial groupings were the forerunners of the regional combinations that later appeared in census publications.
https://www.census.gov/history/www/p...divisions.html
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