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Old 10-09-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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The Northeastern states: New York Pennsylvania Maryland New Jersey Delaware Vermont New Hampshire Rhode Island Massachusetts Connecticut Maine
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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you can't judge northeastern by the mason dixon line anymore. Maryland has so many transplants, and is so fast paced, it feels more like Long Island in some parts than the south. very congested, traffic, diverse, etc. Meanwhile there are parts of South Jersey full of hicks with slight southern accents. so the mason dixon line doesn't do it anymore..
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Germany
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The original northeastern states are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, MAryland, and the New England States. One of my great, great, great, (etcetera) grandfathers fought in the German Maryland line during the American Civil War.
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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The original northeastern states are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, MAryland, and the New England States. One of my great, great, great, (etcetera) grandfathers fought in the German Maryland line during the American Civil War.
That is definitely very cool about your great (however many times!) grandpa, but Maryland is not an "original" northeastern state, neither is Delaware. It's a state that people in the past few decades have begun to refer to as northeastern. Before that it was known to be southern, and some people still consider it southern. There wouldn't be serious, genuine debates about it if its position wasn't secured in one region over the other. No one debates the region of a state like New York, but a border state like Maryland is a bit different.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:11 AM
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That is definitely very cool about your great (however many times!) grandpa, but Maryland is not an "original" northeastern state, neither is Delaware. It's a state that people in the past few decades have begun to refer to as northeastern. Before that it was known to be southern, and some people still consider it southern. There wouldn't be serious, genuine debates about it if its position wasn't secured in one region over the other. No one debates the region of a state like New York, but a border state like Maryland is a bit different.
Delaware was originally part of Pennsylvania, a now northeastern state. Later known as a Middle Colony and later a Middle State, Delaware would naturally become an original northeastern state today like NY, NJ and PA did while they were also Middle Colonies/Middle States. Maryland is a different story, originally a southern colony, but today, an exception may be made for Maryland due to location and culture.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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Delaware was originally part of Pennsylvania, a now northeastern state. Later known as a Middle Colony and later a Middle State, Delaware would naturally become an original northeastern state today like NY, NJ and PA did while they were also Middle Colonies/Middle States. Maryland is a different story, originally a southern colony, but today, an exception may be made for Maryland due to location and culture.
Delaware was first, Pennslvania was second.
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:40 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Delaware was originally part of Pennsylvania, a now northeastern state. Later known as a Middle Colony and later a Middle State, Delaware would naturally become an original northeastern state today like NY, NJ and PA did while they were also Middle Colonies/Middle States. Maryland is a different story, originally a southern colony, but today, an exception may be made for Maryland due to location and culture.
This is good.
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Delaware was first, Pennslvania was second.
Delaware was settled first before Pennsylvania but believe it or not Pennsylvania was established first.

Delaware spent her first years as part of New Sweden, New Netherland, New York and finally Pennsylvania, where she gradually became independent.

Delaware has to have one of the most complicated histories in the country.
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Old 10-13-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I wonder if Ohio can be a Midwestern state. It borders a southern state. That just doesn't sound right.

Colorado is a mountain state that borders a state the U.S. Census considers to be part of the American South. This also doesn't sound right. We should move Oklahoma into the Mountain West.

But then a Mountain West state would be bordering a southern state. That doesn't sound right. We should put Arkansas in the Midwest and Louisiana in the Southwest. But then Arkansas borders Missouri, a Midwestern state.

Oh noes!!!
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:38 PM
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I wonder if Ohio can be a Midwestern state. It borders a southern state. That just doesn't sound right.

Colorado is a mountain state that borders a state the U.S. Census considers to be part of the American South. This also doesn't sound right. We should move Oklahoma into the Mountain West.

But then a Mountain West state would be bordering a southern state. That doesn't sound right. We should put Arkansas in the Midwest and Louisiana in the Southwest. But then Arkansas borders Missouri, a Midwestern state.

Oh noes!!!
Ohio also borders 2 northeastern states (PA and WV).

The border between Colorado and Oklahoma is very small.

Arkansas doesn't belong in the Midwest and Louisiana doesn't belong in the Southwest. The Midwest has OH, IN, IL, KY, MI, WI, MO, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE and KS. The Southwest has OK, TX, NM, AZ, CO and UT.
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