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Old 10-13-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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Ohio also borders 2 northeastern states (PA and WV).


That West Virginia southern drawl you'll hear in much of the state is such a northeastern characteristic. Those New Yorkers consider West Virginians to practically be their twins on like, every level!

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Old 10-13-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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That West Virginia southern drawl you'll hear in much of the state is such a northeastern characteristic. Those New Yorkers consider West Virginians to practically be their twins on like, every level!

These West Virginia yankees over here.

West Virginia Accent Challenge - YouTube

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Old 10-13-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Germany
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That is definitely very cool about your great (however many times!) grandpa, but Maryland is not an "original" northeastern state, neither is Delaware. It's a state that people in the past few decades have begun to refer to as northeastern. Before that it was known to be southern, and some people still consider it southern. There wouldn't be serious, genuine debates about it if its position wasn't secured in one region over the other. No one debates the region of a state like New York, but a border state like Maryland is a bit different.
Thank you very much Jersey Girl for your respect as I am I very big fan of the United States as well. I am German (and planning an imminent move to your country) but am also very proud to have had an ancestor who fought valiantly for the US Union army during the Civil War. To my knowledge he was German-American named Emmerich Ackermann born to German parents in what then a small farming community called Germantown, MD. He signed up to defend Maryland against southern aggression (or Confederate aggression since MAryland was often straddled the north and south) during the outbreak of hostilities in 1861. His loyalty was to the state of Maryland which voted by a great majority to stay loyal to the United States. From what I understand he served from 1861 until 1865 and survived unscathed. He served at many famous battles including Antietam, Manassas, the Wilderness and even defended Pennsylvania at Gettysburg. At Gettysburg his unit encountered and defeated a group of traitor Marylanders who dishonored their state's loyalty and joined the Vriginians. They took no prisoners as Marylander's who joined the south were considered traitors to state, country, community and the scum of the earth. Maryland suffered greatly during the American Civil War because it was the front line of defense of the north and was the scene of numerous southern invasions. When the southerners invaded Maryland they took everything - food, crops, clothing, kicthenware, and of course they enslaved all black and mixed race Americans and had no qualms about working them to death. (So when neoconfederates complain about the harshness of the US army like Sherman you can tell them at least they weren't enslaved and separated from family never to be seen again). From his letters it is clear that the MAryland troops in his unit had the utmost disdain for the southern troops and the southern (Confederates) had a reputation among the German (and general) community in Maryland, and were known for their harsh treatment of common civilians who were absolutely frigthened by them. Thank god for the Union Army and the Maryland, Pennsylvania, Delaware, and New Jersey volunteers who gave their young lives to serve as the first line of defense against Confederate barbarity. In Maryland suspected southern sympathizers were run out of many Maryland towns under the threat of death - one was the notorious traitor John Wilkes Boothe. Although Maryland is extremely "northern" in culture today, my understanding is that they were proud to be of mixed culture at the time, although staunchly union (US). They even voted for Abraham Lincoln in 1864 and abolished slavery by vote (a remarkable achievement, southern states and even states like New Jersey and Delaware) were forced by the federal government to abolish slavery against their will. Baltimore also had the largest free black population in America since it was the "south of the north" Thank you for your kind words and interest Jersey girl, and I have incredible respect for your country's culture, economy and political system.

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Old 10-13-2014, 09:15 PM
 
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Wow, they're practically living lives like us in NJ, huh?! Identical, who would've known - accent and everything.

That last video, though. I, too, go mudding on my 4-wheeler while wearing a bikini deep, deep in the woods of rural Union County in my free time, while screaming in Southern. Crazy.
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:57 AM
 
Location: SW Pennsylvania
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Well those were people from southern West Virginia. The accent is thick especially around the Kentucky and Virginia borders. Up in northern West Virginia, the accent is toned down a bit. You will not hear many "y'all's" in Wheeling or Morgantown.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Well those were people from southern West Virginia. The accent is thick especially around the Kentucky and Virginia borders. Up in northern West Virginia, the accent is toned down a bit. You will not hear many "y'all's" in Wheeling or Morgantown.
Right and not an ounce of the Northeast has even a hint of southern twang. Those are southern accents all day long. Anyone that sounds like that is not from the Northeast.
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Wouldn't it make more sense to put Ohio in the NE over West Virginia? Ohio and Pennsylvania are bosom buddies.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Well those were people from southern West Virginia. The accent is thick especially around the Kentucky and Virginia borders. Up in northern West Virginia, the accent is toned down a bit. You will not hear many "y'all's" in Wheeling or Morgantown.
Not all of them. At least one was from the Eastern Panhandle. I agree with you about Morgantown and Wheeling though.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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How can Cleveland not be in the Northeast? From Cleveland, you can be in New York State in an hour and 47 minutes. From Baltimore, it takes nearly 3 hours to get to Staten Island.
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Old 10-14-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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How can Cleveland not be in the Northeast? From Cleveland, you can be in New York State in an hour and 47 minutes. From Baltimore, it takes nearly 3 hours to get to Staten Island.
One could argue that Baltimore is ALREADY in the Northeast, but if you don't like that argument, then you can say that Baltimore is much shorter than 1 hour 47 minutes from PA or NJ -- both Northeastern states. Plus, Cleveland is a solid 7-8 hours from NYC, whereas Baltimore is 3.
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