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Old 10-13-2015, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Maryland is Northeastern including and north of D.C. Baltimore accent isn't Southern like Louisville at all is indicated by maps. Louisville is firmly within the Southern dialect range. The majority of Maryland and Delaware fit in better with the Northeast than the South.
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Delaware, Maryland, and West Virginia go both ways on whenever they're Northern or Southern.

The states that are unarguably Northeastern are Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.
No. Delaware isn't Southern. The most populous and important parts of the state, Kent County and New Castle County, aren't Southern. Heck, Wilmington is essentially Philly-lite. And Sussex County, the only part of the state "up for debate" is dominated by rich, progressive beach towns who vote blue.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:26 AM
 
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Maryland is Northeastern including and north of D.C. Baltimore accent isn't Southern like Louisville at all is indicated by maps. Louisville is firmly within the Southern dialect range. The majority of Maryland and Delaware fit in better with the Northeast than the South.
Sigh. Yes, only Maryland. Maryland is the only border state that is fully Northern. Nothing Southern about it. In fact, all other border states are not only Southern, they've become fully accepted by the South and only Maryland is shunned. Yup, Maryland. The only border state to completely absolve itself of being any trace of Southern.

Next you'll be saying that Missouri is super Southern. Something magical about Maryland's placement I guess. Must be the 100 miles to Philly from Baltimore that caused the South to disappear

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Old 10-14-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Sigh. Yes, only Maryland. Maryland is the only border state that is fully Northern. Nothing Southern about it. In fact, all other border states are not only Southern, they've become fully accepted by the South and only Maryland is shunned. Yup, Maryland. The only border state to completely absolve itself of being any trace of Southern.

Next you'll be saying that Missouri is super Southern. Something magical about Maryland's placement I guess. Must be the 100 miles to Philly from Baltimore that caused the South to disappear
Quit putting words in my mouth. I implied it is still Southern on the eastern shore and south of D.C. It is a border state that leans more Northeastern than Southern including and to the north of D.C. Just like Missouri is a border state that leans more Midwestern than Southern.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Quit putting words in my mouth. I implied it is still Southern on the eastern shore and south of D.C. It is a border state that leans more Northeastern than Southern including and to the north of D.C. Just like Missouri is a border state that leans more Midwestern than Southern.
Then let em join Missouri and legally take themselves out of the Southern region and join the North. Don't know why it's yet to happen since they're so "Northern". Ditto for Delaware.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Btw, I know people love to claim West Virginia as a quintessentially Southern state despite its mixed history. I know for a fact that its poverty and Appalachian status has a lot to do with this. Take away it's poverty and it's not that different from Western Pennsylvania, which isn't considered Southern.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Then let em join Missouri and legally take themselves out of the Southern region and join the North. Don't know why it's yet to happen since they're so "Northern". Ditto for Delaware.
Back to the Census Bureau when all else is lost I guess. Right because the Census Bureau is always correct. The Mason-Dixon Line is factually outdated..this is proven culturally as well as linguistically. You're a waste of my time...you clearly will declare Maryland is the South until the day you die so I'm no longer going to waste my efforts on you. Goodbye and good riddance.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Btw, I know people love to claim West Virginia as a quintessentially Southern state despite its mixed history. I know for a fact that its poverty and Appalachian status has a lot to do with this. Take away it's poverty and it's not that different from Western Pennsylvania, which isn't considered Southern.
The majority of West Virginia south of Clarksburg is demographically, culturally, and linguistically Southern.
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Old 10-14-2015, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The majority of West Virginia south of Clarksburg is demographically, culturally, and linguistically Southern.
It's actually not a straight line. Although I agree Clarksburg is where you really see large pockets of southernly speak appear.

There are still communities south of Clarksburg that have a more rural north vibe, honestly. Around Elkins, for example can feel a lot like the northeast at times.

The eastern panhandle is mostly northern in flavor as well as areas nearby the Ohio river. Even Huntington can feel more northern.

The strictly southern to more northern feel has a much more jagged and spotty border through WV than a straight east/west line.
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Old 10-22-2015, 03:42 PM
 
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St Lousian is back? lol
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