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Old 07-31-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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It's okay, I admit I feel that way about certain cities myself.
Is that why you refuse to accept Baltimore and DC as part of the South?????

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Old 07-31-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware
If you ever travel to Delaware, check out Dover....
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Wow, that is a strangely inaccurate description of the DC suburbs. It is one of the most diverse areas on the east coast.
I meant to say white ethnic flavor. There is no equivalent of the Irish Riviera in the DC suburbs or the largely Italian/Jewish suburbs of Long Island. Nor does DC have white-working class suburbs where a sizable portion of the White population are card carrying members of a union (or at least suburbs where unionism is entrenched in the local culture even if most people don't even have a family member who's in a local). This article perfectly describes the culture I'm talking about.

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Philadelphia unions were as strong in the suburbs as they were in the city back then. They wanted a “closed shop” — union members only — and Altemose offered a split: 70 percent for union workers, the remaining 30 percent for his regular crew.

The offer enraged Tom LeGrand, a former boxer and plumber, and then head of the area’s Building Trades Council. “I don’t represent 70 percent of nothing,” he told a television crew.

In June, a thousand union men showed up in Valley Forge, wearing hard hats. They trampled over the chain-link fence and began what the state Supreme Court later called “a virtual military assault,” using color-coded smoke bombs to designate targeted areas, along with firebombs and — incredibly — hand grenades.
The Last Union Town | Articles

The unions in Philadelphia, Boston and NYC still wield considerable influence in City Hall (and much of the surrounding suburbs). That's not the case at all in DC. Clark Construction, which builds virtually everything in DC these days, does not use unionized labor. In Philly, the unions would be up in arms about major contracts getting consistently doled out to non-union shops. The unions are in our blood. And that's an important part of "northeastern" culture, imo.

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When laborers in Philadelphia organized themselves, they didn’t just feel strongly about work; they felt strongly about brotherhood. About language, and tradition, and Catholicism. And so when American industry rose and fell, shaping and shattering unions in other cities, Philadelphia’s unions only turned inward, and tightened their ranks.

Sheet-metal workers, carpenters, masons, electricians. Great strength,” says Walter Licht, the Annenberg professor of history at the University of Pennsylvania. “That strength came from ethnic kinship.”
That's the essence of Philadelphia to me. That's northeastern culture.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:56 PM
 
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I meant to say white ethnic flavor. There is no equivalent of the Irish Riviera in the DC suburbs or the largely Italian/Jewish suburbs of Long Island. Nor does DC have white-working class suburbs where a sizable portion of the White population are card carrying members of a union (or at least suburbs where unionism is entrenched in the local culture even if most people don't even have a family member who's in a local). This article perfectly describes the culture I'm talking about.



The Last Union Town | Articles

The unions in Philadelphia, Boston and NYC still wield considerable influence in City Hall (and much of the surrounding suburbs). That's not the case at all in DC. Clark Construction, which builds virtually everything in DC these days, does not use unionized labor. In Philly, the unions would be up in arms about major contracts getting consistently doled out to non-union shops. The unions are in our blood. And that's an important part of "northeastern" culture, imo.



That's the essence of Philadelphia to me. That's northeastern culture.
I think that you'll find a lot of this in the Rust Belt, too---i.e. Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, etc..
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Old 08-02-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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The Northeast is from Seneca lake due south then down the Proclaimation line of 1763 eastward and north of the Mason-Dixon Line to Delaware bay
So States 100% in the Northeast MA, RI, Vt, CT, ME, NH, NJ
Majority in NE- PA, NY
Minority on NE- DE
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:45 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I meant to say white ethnic flavor. There is no equivalent of the Irish Riviera in the DC suburbs or the largely Italian/Jewish suburbs of Long Island. Nor does DC have white-working class suburbs where a sizable portion of the White population are card carrying members of a union (or at least suburbs where unionism is entrenched in the local culture even if most people don't even have a family member who's in a local). This article perfectly describes the culture I'm talking about.
There are ethnic Italian, Irish and Jewish neighborhoods in Baltimore and in some other parts of Maryland. Baltimore has a long history as an industrial and manufacturing port city.

DC has had much less of these particular elements from what I've seen. It is built around the federal government and everything related to it. Of course, all kinds of businesses and industries now exist in the DC area to support this infrastructure. It has one of the largest tech and biotech sectors in the U.S., for example.
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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Northeastern lifestyle in every major northeastern city (check every street view image listed below):

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Old 08-03-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Just like the 49th parallel is the border between the US and Canada, Parallel 36 30 North should be the border between the Northern US and the Southern US.

http://chapternineizzygeorgia.weebly...747946.png?336
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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There are ethnic Italian, Irish and Jewish neighborhoods in Baltimore and in some other parts of Maryland. Baltimore has a long history as an industrial and manufacturing port city.

DC has had much less of these particular elements from what I've seen. It is built around the federal government and everything related to it. Of course, all kinds of businesses and industries now exist in the DC area to support this infrastructure. It has one of the largest tech and biotech sectors in the U.S., for example.
Baltimore today have redneck southern talking neighborhoods and southern redneck trailor parks in Anne Arundel County...
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Baltimore today have redneck southern talking neighborhoods and southern redneck trailor parks in Anne Arundel County...
There are neighborhoods everywhere across the country that sound like southern people and there are trailer parks everywhere too, not just Baltimore and AA County.
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