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Old 08-07-2014, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Actually, is it possible for different parts of a city to be in different regions?

For example, some posters say that the White parts of DC are northern. Okay. But the Black parts--where most long-time residents reside--are Southern leaning. So can we say that DC is northern from 16th Street west and southern from 16th Street down to all of the neighborhoods in Wards 7 and 8?

Dupont Circle (northern)
Deanwood (southern)
Logan Circle (northern)
Hillcrest (southern)
Tenleytown (northern)
Kingman Park (southern)

How does that sound?
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:26 PM
 
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^^Metro is a better barometer since much of the White ethnic populations in these cities have moved to the burbs.

Boston, NYC, and Philly are the only cities where White Catholics and Jews make up a majority of the non-Hispanic White population. The numbers for Baltimore are significantly less (about right in the middle between these cities and Richmond). DC is much closer to Richmond.
True, but it is interesting to see how the core (city proper) of each city ethnically stands today imo. I also didn't have the metro stats at the moment so I posted city proper statistics instead.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'd also propose removing Northern Brooklyn from the Northeast. That clearly belongs to the Midwest now.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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When will this City-Data Civil War end?
When they accept the Fact that Maryland and Delaware are Southern States...
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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This is not the thread at hand:


Here is the actual topic of the thread:

And so, here is my response: CT, DE, ME, MD, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT
Thats your opinion not to be confused as Facts due to the Fact that Maryland and Delaware are not Northern States....
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:54 PM
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When they accept the Fact that Maryland and Delaware are Southern States...
At least you are starting to call Virginia and North Carolina northeastern states. Finally, you gave up. So Delaware and Maryland are northeastern states too.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ask someone from the northeast. Once you go west of the hudson river, the atmosphere, accents and weather change drastically. There is no doubt that the islands of ny and new england are the northeast but nj, de, pa and upstate ny are northeast lite, maybe more similar to the midwest and you can include maryland and nova with that i guess in today's time. Based on many of the opinions in this thread, you might as well say the northeast starts once you get to the southern edge of the chesapeake bay.

Then again, people from md and nova might not even agree with that either, because the southern accent is stronger in the southern chesapeake bay area, even tho many people from dc, md and nova have southern accents too where you can't really tell the difference what part of the va/md area they originated.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:30 PM
 
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At least you are starting to call Virginia and North Carolina northeastern states. Finally, you gave up. So Delaware and Maryland are northeastern states too.
What Im saying is if Maryland is a Northeastern state then North Carolina is a Northeastern state too....
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Here are the 5 largest white ethnic populations from the Northeastern cities of Philly, Boston and NYC vs the neutral/gray area cities of Baltimore and DC (the percentages are the percentage that the specific group is of the entire city)

Notice how Philly, Boston and NYC are much more ethnically similar to each other than Baltimore and DC.
I also put the white and hispanic ethnicities that are the most associated with the Northeast in bold imo (Puerto Ricans and Dominicans for Hispanics and Italians and Irish for whites)

Philadelphia city

Irish - 206,582 (13.6%)
Italian - 140,139 (9.2%)

German - 123,058 (8.1%)
Polish - 65,508 (4.3%)
English - 44,513 (2.9%)
United States - 27,843 (1.8%)
Russian - 26,375 (1.7%)

Boston city

Irish - 93,360 (15.8%)
Italian - 49,017 (8.3%)

English - 26,384 (4.5%)
German - 24,426 (4.1%)
United States - 19,387 (3.3%)
Polish - 13,704 (2.3%)
French - 10,960 (1.9%)

New York city

Italian - 692,739 (8.7%)
Irish - 421,646 (5.3%)

German - 255,536 (3.2%)
Russian - 243,015 (3.0%)
United States - 238,385 (3.0%)
Polish - 213,447 (2.7%)
English - 124,821 (1.6%)

VS

Baltimore city

German - 48,423 (7.4%)
Irish - 39,045 (6.0%)
English - 21,015 (3.2%)
Italian - 18,492 (2.8%)
Polish - 18,400 (2.8%)
United States - 16,056 (2.5%)
Russian - 5,526 (0.8%)

Washington DC city

Irish*- 28,207 (4.9%)*
German - 27,415 (4.8%)*
English - 25,214 (4.4%)*
Italian - 12,587 (2.2%)*
United States - 9,919 (1.7%)*
Russian - 8,338 (1.5%)
Polish*- 7,910 (1.4%)

Hispanic populations

Philadelphia city

Puerto Rican 121,643 - (8.0%)
Dominican 15,963 - (1.0%)

Mexican 15,531- (1.0%)

Boston city

Puerto Rican 30,506 - (4.9%)
Dominican 25,648 - (4.2%)

Columbian 6,649 - (1.1%)

New York city

Puerto Rican 723,621- (8.9%)
Dominican 576,701- (7.1%)

Mexican 319,263 - (3.9%)

Vs


Baltimore city

Mexican - 7,855 - (1.3%)
Puerto Rican - 3,137- (.5%)
Salvadoran- 2,796 - (.5%)


Washington D.C city

Salvadoran 16,611- (2.8%)
Mexican 8,507 - (1.4%)
Puerto Rican 3,129 - (.5%)
All 5 cities have their Irish population in the top 2, Italian population in the top 4 and their Puerto Rican population in the top 3 for Hispanic groups. Seems like those cities aren't that far off demographically than some people make it out to be.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:42 PM
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All 5 cities have their Irish population in the top 2, Italian population in the top 4 and their Puerto Rican population in the top 3 for Hispanic groups. Seems like those cities aren't that far off demographically than some people make it out to be.
What about Hartford and Providence, the two other major cities of the Northeast Megalopolis, which both of them are between Boston and NYC, just like Philadelphia and Baltimore are between NYC and DC, but on the northern side? Do they have a large Puerto Rican, Irish and Italian populations like the other 5 cities? Why are these two cities usually skipped when people are talking about major cities in the Northeastern Megalopolis unlike Philadelphia and Baltimore?
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