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Old 08-11-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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There are also places like North Decatur in Atlanta. Very affluent. Very Jewish. Very liberal (many are NYC transplants). Is it northeastern?


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How many people in Atlanta are identify that area as being part of the Northeast? Are they going out of there way to be associated with the Northeast?
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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How many people in Atlanta are identify that area as being part of the Northeast? Are they going out of there way to be associated with the Northeast?
How would I know that? I just provided an example of a SWPL community in Atlanta that is culturally indistinguishable from Bethesda. Bungalow houses, walkable, large Jewish population, politically left leaning, affluent, etc. Those are all the hallmarks of Northeast culture (or at least non-southern culture).

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Why is DC fighting so hard to be a part of a region that doesn't want it? Why do people care so much to be associated with the Northeast? Is it like being accepted by the cool kids in high school? I mean people from DC fight very hard to be accepted; meanwhile, people from the NE are fighting equally hard to tell you you're not. That is very unbecoming of the most powerful city in the world.
Cuz the South is icky.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The Research Triangle will be the next place to make the full transformation into a Northeastern metro area.

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Raleigh has some features that other cities along the Eastern Seaboard share, and Philadelphia has, historically, been one of these,” Dodsworth said in response to a question about Raleigh’s linguistic brethren.
Raleigh has lost its drawl, y’all | Wake County | NewsObserver.com

"Yo cuz, I'm from Raleigh!"
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:08 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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How would I know that? I just provided an example of a SWPL community in Atlanta that is culturally indistinguishable from Bethesda. Bungalow houses, walkable, large Jewish population, politically left leaning, affluent, etc. Those are all the hallmarks of Northeast culture (or at least non-southern culture).



Cuz the South is icky.
People from the Northeast love the ickyness of the south then. Look at DC, Raleigh, Charlotte, South Florida...Northeast transplants galore.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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The Research Triangle will be the next place to make the full transformation into a Northeastern metro area.



Raleigh has lost its drawl, y’all | Wake County | NewsObserver.com

"Yo cuz, I'm from Raleigh!"
Raleigh is still very much southern. I have tons of family down there, and was there last month. Raleigh is very southern.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Raleigh is still very much southern. I have tons of family down there, and was there last month. Raleigh is very southern.
We just had a family reunion there. I'd say it's culturally Mid-Atlantic.

52% of non-Hispanic White residents in Metro Raleigh were born outside of the state. North Carolina is also the largest recipient of New Yorkers after Florida and New Jersey.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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We just had a family reunion there. I'd say it's culturally Mid-Atlantic.

52% of non-Hispanic White residents in Metro Raleigh were born outside of the state. North Carolina is also the largest recipient of New Yorkers after Florida and New Jersey.
I don't know whether or not you're joking or serious with the statement.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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A lot of people seem to be having a problem with BajanYankee's arguments, so to summarize:

1. There is no question that Maryland was historically a southern state.

2. There is no question that in the contemporary era the culturally southern characteristics of Maryland have largely vanished.

3. However, if losing culturally southern traits is enough to make a southern state become northeastern, why aren't southern Florida, the Triangle Region of North Carolina, and other similar transplant-dominated parts of the South now part of the Northeast? I'm grasping for straws here, and the only thing I can think of is they aren't geographically contiguous. But once there's a solid band of "Northern" white folk from DC all the way down to Raleigh, watch out guys!
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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We just had a family reunion there. I'd say it's culturally Mid-Atlantic.

52% of non-Hispanic White residents in Metro Raleigh were born outside of the state. North Carolina is also the largest recipient of New Yorkers after Florida and New Jersey.
I had a family reunion there as well. Those NC is still southern. My GF, who's from GA, said she felt like she was home there. She doesn't feel like that here in Baltimore, a southern city as well. There's nothing mid-atlantic about NC. Also, Baltimore, hasn't seen the influx of northerners that most of the rest of the south has seen, so our culture, whatever you want to classify it as, is authentic.
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Old 08-11-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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A lot of people seem to be having a problem with BajanYankee's arguments, so to summarize:

1. There is no question that Maryland was historically a southern state.

2. There is no question that in the contemporary era the culturally southern characteristics of Maryland have largely vanished.

3. However, if losing culturally southern traits is enough to make a southern state become northeastern, why aren't southern Florida, the Triangle Region of North Carolina, and other similar transplant-dominated parts of the South now part of the Northeast? I'm grasping for straws here, and the only thing I can think of is they aren't geographically contiguous. But once there's a solid band of "Northern" white folk from DC all the way down to Raleigh, watch out guys!
That's exactly it.

And people are already making the geographic proximity argument. Baltimore and DC can be northeastern because Philly is "right there." Then folks in Richmond can say that they are northeastern because DC is "right there." Then Northeastern North Carolina folks can say they are northeastern because Richmond, which is tied into DC, which is tied into Baltimore, which is tied into Philly, which is tied into NYC, is "right there." Not to mention that many of those places are being overun by transplants and are going through the same homogenization process the DC area started going through 30 years ago.
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