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Old 08-11-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The white people in Miami are Caribbean?
Quite a lot of them are of Cuban heritage. It was a surprise for me when I experienced this myself.

You can barely tell any difference between a 2nd generation Cuban-American and any regular white person. Think Marco Rubio.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Quite a lot of them are of Cuban heritage. You can barely tell any difference between a 2nd generation Cuban-American and any regular white person. Think Marco Rubio.
The overwhelming majority are not. About 40% of the Miami area's non-Hispanic White population is Jewish/Italian. If that's not northeastern, then I don't know what is.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Meaning it will also be culturally northeastern.

It's funny how some people say "culture doesn't stop at state lines!" and then argue that northern culture can't go below a certain point.
Nah man, I'm referring to the Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, West Virginia northern tier of the South Atlantic. It isn't until you get to Charlotte that it goes from "Mini-DMV" (and DMV influenced environs) to "Mini-Atlanta" (and Atlanta influenced environs). Then the lower tier of the South Atlantic is Miami and it's influenced environs which runs up north until Jacksonville where it transitions to Atlanta country. I think of the South Atlantic as broken up into three spheres/tiers of influence around the 6 million metropolises of Washington (top tier), Atlanta (middle tier), and Miami (lower tier) and the tiers are top or lower based off their geography (north to south).

Washington is a special place, it has certain traits to it (like the El Salvadoran domination of it's Latino groups) that other places don't have, traits that I could very easily see Raleigh and the rest of the Research Triangle develop. Some of it, it already is developing.

By DMV I mean the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA-WV area. No Baltimore.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Honestly, in another 15-20 years, this sort of thread may look ridiculous. If current trends continue, essentially the entire east coast of the Southeast (barring SC), along with Texas will be governed by a coalition of nonwhites and white liberal transplants. At that point people will stop taking states out of the South simply because whites don't have a southern accent any longer and they don't vote conservatively, and realize a new definition of the South is needed.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Honestly, in another 15-20 years, this sort of thread may look ridiculous. If current trends continue, essentially the entire east coast of the Southeast (barring SC), along with Texas will be governed by a coalition of nonwhites and white liberal transplants. At that point people will stop taking states out of the South simply because whites don't have a southern accent any longer and they don't vote conservatively, and realize a new definition of the South is needed.
Very true. As Hispanics in North Carolina and Georgia reach voting age, and African Americans from the North (and African, West Indian and Asian immigrants) continue to move there by the boatload along with a heavy influx of younger, educated Whites, we're going to see a blue Atlantic Seaboard.
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:26 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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This map explains all the difference you need to know between a metro area like Washington DC and a metro area like Charlotte or Atlanta. You shouldn't have any more questions left after seeing this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/loc...a-world-apart/
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:28 PM
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How about we should just divide regions using metropolitan areas as building blocks? The US would have over 100 regions.

Last edited by muppethammer26; 08-11-2014 at 07:43 PM..
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The City
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This map explains all the difference you need to know between a metro area like Washington DC and a metro area like Charlotte or Atlanta. You shouldn't have any more questions left after seeing this:

Washington: A world apart | The Washington Post
interesting map

Trenton NJ is one of the top clusters - in looking at the map however half the covered area of the cluster is in Bucks county PA part of the Philly metro

kind of surprised SF is not among the tops - though Oakland and San Jose are

the list is basically from the Boswash and the cities in between and Cali with LA, SD, and the Bay and Chicago in the top 15
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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From a historical perspective, Baltimore was demographically slightly more similar to Philadelphia than Richmond.

In 1900:

Philadelphia: 23% foreign born white, 5% black
Baltimore: 13% foreign born white, 15% black
Richmond: 3% foreign born white, 38% black

In 1870:

Philadelphia: 27% foreign born white, 3% black
Baltimore: 20% foreign born white, 14% black
Richmond (Henrico): 6% foreign born white, 47% black

src: University of Virginia Library

I would therefore consider Baltimore to be slightly more northeastern than southern, although still not a 'northeastern city' per se. DC is clearly southern. At any rate, the Northeast IMO is the census definition of it.
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:34 AM
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This is how I would divide the East Coast:

North Atlantic: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Eastern 2/3 of Connecticut
Northern Mid-Atlantic: Western 1/3 of Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Northern Panhandle of West Virginia, Eastern 1/2 of Ohio
Southern Mid-Atlantic: Maryland, The Rest of West Virginia, Virginia
South Atlantic: North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida (except the Western Panhandle)
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