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Old 08-12-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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This is how I would divide the East Coast:

North Atlantic: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Eastern 2/3 of Connecticut
Northern Mid-Atlantic: Western 1/3 of Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Northern Panhandle of West Virginia, Eastern 1/2 of Ohio
Southern Mid-Atlantic: Maryland, The Rest of West Virginia, Virginia
South Atlantic: North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida (except the Western Panhandle)
Ohio in the mid-ATLANTIC? West Virginia?
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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I would say NY & above.

Basically, right? The question is not where the mid-atlantic begins.

It's still on the east coast tho, so what's the beef?

Another thing, there has always been rich people in the south too.
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:42 PM
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Well Grenwich has more "white ethnics" than Bethesda.

Grenwich:

Irish 14%
Italian 14%
Polish 8%

Bethesda:

Irish 13%
Italian 7%
Polish 5%

Also, Grenwich is 28% foreign born, 26% born in state. Bethesda is 22% foreign born, 11% born in state

Regional differences are reflected in the demographics. Now more seriously:

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I'm glad to see someone point this out. There are posters on here who will ignore that places like Bethesda or Potomac exist in Maryland. For some reason, they will also ignore that 70% of Maryland's population is not African American. They're the wrong demographic, I guess.
Differences in African-American population is mentioned because African-American history been among the among the biggest if not the biggest north vs south differences throughout American history. Less so today, but it still leaves a mark on the residential population. It's also a matter of ignore as some posters don't consider the presence of wealthy suburbs a marker of the Northeast. The south has less of those but still some. Some of the Midwest and the West Coast metros have plenty of wealthy suburbs. Most of the Northeast is nowhere near as affluent as those two towns, so they're not reflective of the Northeast. Philadelphia isn't that unsually wealthy as US metros go. And NYC has so many wealthy partly because it's so big, DC is much wealthier than any other metro in the Northeast. Boston doesn't have quite as much extremes of wealth as DC. So DC/Maryland = wealthy doesn't quite work. Though its median income fits with other small coastal Northeastern states.

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They also don't like that Maryland has the highest % of millionaires of any state in the U.S. But hey, what can I do?
Well, why is that an arguement for "Northeast"?
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Old 08-12-2014, 04:50 PM
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Lol, Bajanyankee still hitting them up. Anyway, the Northeast is DE, PA, NY, NJ, CT, ME, MA, NH, RI, VT.

To me, DC seems like a Tidewater city at heart. I have even spoken to couple old heads from DC that live in Richmond about returning to DC and they said that Richmond and DC are basically cousin cities & some of the younger Richmond folk even flat out said that DC is Southern.

I know the Northeast and Southeast. DC does have some in common with the North but it's just logical to see what it has in common with the upper coastal South too. I mean, DC's original accent was Tidewater and really, the Tidewater area is not stereotypical Southern at all. Sheesh, DC's influence reaches all the way to eastern NC for crying out loud. Baltimore is the true border city and MD is not Northern with that state song. New South before the term was coined.
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:20 PM
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How are Baltimore and Washington different if they are only about 30 miles apart?
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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How are Baltimore and Washington different if they are only about 30 miles apart?
Baltimore was a port/industrial city which attracted immigrants (although not as many as cities to the north). DC was a white collar/service city right from the start, which was basically the norm for most southern cities in the through to the mid-20th century (and why they tended to stay so small).
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Old 08-12-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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Most of the Northeast is nowhere near as affluent as those two towns, so they're not reflective of the Northeast. Philadelphia isn't that unsually wealthy as US metros go. And NYC has so many wealthy partly because it's so big, DC is much wealthier than any other metro in the Northeast. Boston doesn't have quite as much extremes of wealth as DC. So DC/Maryland = wealthy doesn't quite work. Though its median income fits with other small coastal Northeastern states.
I'd agree with that veiw -- every major metro certainly has its affluent areas, so that's not regionally unique whatsoever.

I will say, though, one hallmark of the Northeast compared to the rest of the US is the presence of (or at least the physical manifestations) "old money." No doubt the South and Midwest have their own "old money" areas, but there is much more of a dense concentration of it in major cities such as Boston, NY and Philadelphia. At one time, these cities were major industrial/manufacturing urban regions, and the wealth this created is very evident in the old institutions and building environment in these cities, as well as their surrounding suburbs. Many of the descendants of these families are still around.

In contrast, a city like DC has always attracted the wealthy, yet it was never truly based on homegrown industry or families with century-old roots. The city was built simply to serve as the seat of the federal government, which, compared to the present-day DC economy, was not at all associated with "wealth" -- but I digress.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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Well, why is that an argument for "Northeast"?
These are the top 10 by % of millionaires. Some might notice a pattern among the continental U.S. states:

Maryland - 7.70%
New Jersey - 7.49%
Connecticut - 7.32%
Hawaii - 7.18%
Alaska - 6.75%
Massachusetts - 6.73%
Virginia - 6.64%
New Hampshire - 6.48%
Delaware - 6.20%
District of Columbia - 6.10%

The wealth of Virginia is of course heavily dominated by Northern Virginia, which is just suburban Washington DC.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:32 PM
 
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Ohio is not part of the Mid-Atlantic.
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:00 PM
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These are the top 10 by % of millionaires. Some might notice a pattern among the continental U.S. states:

Maryland - 7.70%
New Jersey - 7.49%
Connecticut - 7.32%
Hawaii - 7.18%
Alaska - 6.75%
Massachusetts - 6.73%
Virginia - 6.64%
New Hampshire - 6.48%
Delaware - 6.20%
District of Columbia - 6.10%

The wealth of Virginia is of course heavily dominated by Northern Virginia, which is just suburban Washington DC.
The other pattern is the bolded states are small states which lack lots of rural areas which tend not to have lots of wealth. Note Pennsylvania is missing, and so is New York. New Hampshire is a rural state, but a large part of it is wealthy Boston exurbs. Rhode Island is definitely Northeastern and doesn't make the list for obvious reasons. Virginia is another big exception to the bolded, but you gave the reason why.
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