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Old 08-16-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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It has to be part of one region or the other.
They'll be labeled southern a thousand times before they are labeled part of the northeast. No matter how you try to match them up, they are not part of the northeast.

Having similarities or even close relations with the north east are not qualifiers. The line is drawn, and they didn't make the cut. It's a matter of history.

Make Maryland or Delaware the new "New York City" and throw Boston right smack in the middle and I, and the US Census, will still say Maryland and Delaware are part of the SOUTH or mid-atlantic regions.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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It has to be part of one region or the other.
Yes, the South.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:44 PM
 
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Yes, the South.
No, it's not part of the south. Too far north to be part of the south. Maryland and Delaware has connections to Philadelphia and Delaware even borders New Jersey. It only takes 10 minutes to get from Philadelphia to Delaware. If Maryland and Delaware are southern states, then Pennsylvania and New Jersey are southern states too.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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No, it's not part of the south. Too far north to be part of the south. Maryland and Delaware has connections to Philadelphia and Delaware even borders New Jersey.
This logic could forever go on all the way to Florida. You'd be historically and geographically WRONG!
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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Again, If Delaware and Maryland are southern states, then New Jersey and Pennsylvania are also southern states. No way, New Jersey and Philadelphia would border a southern state.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Again, If Delaware and Maryland are southern states, then New Jersey and Pennsylvania are also southern states. No way, New Jersey and Philadelphia would border a southern state.
That's a bummer. Some facts are hard to swallow.
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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No, it's not part of the south. Too far north to be part of the south. Maryland and Delaware has connections to Philadelphia and Delaware even borders New Jersey. It only takes 10 minutes to get from Philadelphia to Delaware. If Maryland and Delaware are southern states, then Pennsylvania and New Jersey are southern states too.
Anyplace near somewhere else is going to have connections and ties.
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Old 08-16-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Again, If Delaware and Maryland are southern states, then New Jersey and Pennsylvania are also southern states. No way, New Jersey and Philadelphia would border a southern state.
You've said this several times but have not explained why. Why, in your opinion, can PA or NJ not border a southern state or two?

Haven't you yourself argued ( in other threads) that south jersey has some southern traits? So why would the idea of NJ sharing a border with a southern state be such a mind-blow?
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Old 08-16-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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You've said this several times but have not explained why. Why, in your opinion, can PA or NJ not border a southern state or two?

Haven't you yourself argued ( in other threads) that south jersey has some southern traits? So why would the idea of NJ sharing a border with a southern state be such a mind-blow?
Because New Jersey and Pennsylvania are the centers of the North and New Jersey has NYC while Pennsylvania has Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Plus the Pittsburgh metropolitan area spills into Ohio and West Virginia, while the Philadelphia metropolitan area spills into New Jersey and Delaware. Do you think in your opinion New Jersey borders a southern state? How about Pennsylvania?

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Old 08-16-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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OK so I think we can summarize your argument as follows. Maryland and Delaware are not Southern because:

1.) The DC metro area is affluent

2.) Pennsylvania and New Jersey cannot possibly border any southern state
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