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Old 08-22-2014, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Eh, that's an over-simplification (and increasingly outdated as PA's demographics have shifted pretty dramatically since the years of Reagan; the "latte liberal" crowd is definitely alive-and-well in the Philly and Pittsburgh areas)
I think his point is that most of the state isn't like the DC burbs. And if that's the case, then why is there so much emphasis being placed on "upscale" living.

There's even a stark difference between the DC and Philly metros here. 58.9% of non-Hispanic Whites in the DC metro area have a college degree or higher. In Philly, it's 37.6%. In Pittsburgh, it's 29.5%. Those are pretty big differences. Overall, the Philly and Pittsburgh metros don't have that overwhelming SWPL feeling the DC burbs give off.

And that's just Philly and Pittsburgh. In between those two cities is a lot of Pennsylvania that has fallen on economically hard times.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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That's exactly it. If you look at incomes and educational attainment levels, Pennsylvania is pretty average. Philadelphia and to a lesser extent Pittsburgh have some "yuppies" but they hardly dominate their metros. And Pennsylvania is indisputably Northeastern.

The closest state to Maryland demographically is...Virginia.
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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My personal opinion is that history plays a bigger role than most are willing to acknowledge.
History plays a part, but the vast majority of regular people live in the here and now. Living in the past and imagining that its worst aspects somehow define present-day realities is backward thinking. At best, it is personal bias and at worst, it is almost a kind of paranoia.

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Old 08-23-2014, 06:23 AM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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There's even a stark difference between the DC and Philly metros here. 58.9% of non-Hispanic Whites in the DC metro area have a college degree or higher. In Philly, it's 37.6%. In Pittsburgh, it's 29.5%. Those are pretty big differences. O
And for blacks?
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:25 AM
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Location: Long Island / NYC
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I do agree, but again - Census does count the whole state as Mid-Atlantic. And I personally don't agree with splitting states between regions/taking part of a state out of a region.
States give the whole state some commonalities by government. But most of upstate NY and downstate NY don't have much in common with each other.
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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History plays a part, but the vast majority of regular people live in the here and now. Living in the past and imagining that its worst aspects somehow reflect present-day realities is backward thinking. At best, it is personal bias and at worst, it is almost a kind of paranoia.
Well then hey while were at it let's look for other states with northeastern qualities and just give them the big ole welcome to the northeast award! Oh wait, we can't... cause they're not in the northeast
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Bmore, The cursed land of -> Hotlanta -> Charlotte
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From DC, to Maine imo
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Old 08-23-2014, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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From DC, to Maine imo
It's my opinion California is part of the south.
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:36 AM
 
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History plays a part, but the vast majority of regular people live in the here and now. Living in the past and imagining that its worst aspects somehow define present-day realities is backward thinking. At best, it is personal bias and at worst, it is almost a kind of paranoia.
So what makes MD/DC "northeastern" in the "here and now"?
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Old 08-23-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: The City
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So what makes MD/DC "northeastern" in the "here and now"?
I feel like this whole debate is to attach DC to NE cities like NYC. Well great but the NE in general is far more than NYC and one single aspect does not make or break a place to be part of it which is really more geographic based.

IS DC part of the Boswash or even NE corridor in the modern day sense - yes. Is it part of the NE, probably not in the truest sense.

Additionally to me DC is the biggest outlier of the cities here, it developed in different ways and feels the most different to me. Just being affluent has nothing to do with a region
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