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Old 08-24-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I think I do my fair share about talking about history on this forum lol.
I don't care how much you talk about history. I said that you don't seem to see the connection between demographics and history, as if demographic trends and settlement patterns aren't related to historical events (i.e., slavery, industrialization, etc.). Even your quip about Blacks moving North is one chapter of the history of the region, which was directly related to industrialization and the relative availability of jobs compared to the places they left (same thing with the Italians, Poles, etc.). It's this history that has made the demographics of the Northeast largely distinct from other parts of the country.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Actually they have still both saved more public state land then Virginia (as a % of land area), in New Hampshire's case, more then twice as much.
But they haven't saved as much as Tennessee. What does that say about Tennessee's ideas on conservation and land use?
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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AFAIK, nobody in NY/NJ/PA really identifies as "mid-Atlantic." It's more of an administrative term that basically means "the Northeast that isn't New England."

MD/DC is too different to be simply "tacked on" to NY/NJ/PA.
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Old 08-24-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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This post from BajanYankee bears repeating here:

Is NYC a Mid-Atlantic City?
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Old 08-24-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Really the Mid-Atlantic is the transition zone between New England and the Deep South.
NY,PA,NJ,MD,DE,VA are the mid-Atlantic. So ask not if Baltimore is more like Southern Cities or Philly, but if it's more like Boston or Atlanta?
The part of Mid-Atlantic more like New England than the South is the Northeast, the part More like the Deep South is Southern. that line goes between PA and MD and through DE.
Think about it is The eastern Shore of the Delmarva like Cape Cod or the outer Banks?
Is Annapolis more like Portland ME or Savannah GA?
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Old 08-24-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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AFAIK, nobody in NY/NJ/PA really identifies as "mid-Atlantic." It's more of an administrative term that basically means "the Northeast that isn't New England."

MD/DC is too different to be simply "tacked on" to NY/NJ/PA.
People who live in Maryland, Delaware, District of Columbia, Northern Virginia, Northern West Virginia, Southern Pennsylvania and Southern New Jersey usually identify themselves as part of the Mid-Atlantic region. I agree New York should be just New York, maybe become part of Plain Northeast, not part of either Mid-Atlantic or New England. Maybe Northern Pennsylvania, Northern New Jersey and Western Connecticut should also be included in Plain Northeast.
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Old 08-24-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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Really the Mid-Atlantic is the transition zone between New England and the Deep South.
NY,PA,NJ,MD,DE,VA are the mid-Atlantic. So ask not if Baltimore is more like Southern Cities or Philly, but if it's more like Boston or Atlanta?
The part of Mid-Atlantic more like New England than the South is the Northeast, the part More like the Deep South is Southern. that line goes between PA and MD and through DE.
Think about it is The eastern Shore of the Delmarva like Cape Cod or the outer Banks?
Is Annapolis more like Portland ME or Savannah GA?
1. Baltimore is more like Boston due to Baltimore being a Northeastern city.
2. How about we draw a line through Central Virginia.
3. Delmarva is more like Cape Cod due to the Delmarva Peninsula being still part of the Northeast. Delmarva is also similar to New Jersey and Long Island.
4. Annapolis is more like Portland, Maine due to Annapolis being a Northeastern city.
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:03 PM
 
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I don't see much in common between Baltimore and Boston. How are they alike, besides being big or old?

Annapolis is quite Southern.
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:06 PM
 
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I don't see much in common between Baltimore and Boston. How are they alike, besides being big or old?

Annapolis is quite Southern.
Baltimore and Boston have rowhouses and ports. Atlanta is located in the interior part of one state.

Annapolis and Portland are both state capitals that are located next to the ocean. Both have similar populations. Savannah is not the state capital of one state and Savannah has a larger population.
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Baltimore and Boston have rowhouses and ports.

Annapolis and Portland are both state capitals that are located next to the ocean. Both have similar populations. Savannah is not the state capital of one state and Savannah has a larger population.
Except Portland is not a state Capital
Also I believe that Atlanta more like Baltimore (Lack of Hockey team for instance), accents Grits/ Fried Chicken popular and subway extensiveness
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