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Old 07-19-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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Portland OR is a bit cheaper than California cities, and their markets and co-ops draw on a vast number of small organic farms in western Oregon. As with the more expensive Seattle, they have organizations deliver baskets of freshly-picked vegetables of the week.

Pretty much any Southern port city is going to have a lot of organic produce shipped in from other countries, and the cost of living is low. Of course freshness is not guaranteed, and many of the residents look on co-ops with suspicion, fearing that they might be socialist or communist.
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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Portland Home Prices are more expensive than Sacramento, and Sacramento has a larger variety of organic Fruits and Vegetables growers with a longer growing season.

Zillow Median List Prices:

Sacramento - $255,000
Portland - $315,000
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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New Jersey is the garden state, after all. Plenty of small farms in PA and the Appalachians, some are organic. The issue is seasonality. But the southeast has winter crops as well.

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Fresh ripe produce (vegetables) is important to me, but CA is out because it's too expensive.

What other cities have good produce from farmer's markets & hopefully organic?

Why don't you say say: My budget is $XXX, I don't have a car, and I want a walkable location near a swimming pool and a source of local, organic produce.

Have you considered that most places east of the Ozarks you can grow your own vegetables? Would you like to do that?

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Old 07-19-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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Anywhere in Iowa is great for fresh produce and growing farmers markets.
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:02 PM
 
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Do you think you'd be happier in a small town where you can walk to the swimming pool (if they have one), or a larger city with public transport and more amenities. But smaller yards for gardening.

P.s. lotsofcities without trains will have busses. Are you averse to busses?
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Old 07-19-2014, 09:04 PM
 
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So are you just talking about OR, or Washington, Montana & Idaho too? I thought Idaho had only potatoes & it sounds boring (no offense to anyone).
If fresh produce is your thing, one would assume you would actually do your research and not fall on preconceived notions. Idaho does have the ideal climate and soil for potatoes; but otherwise, they grow a good amount of fruits, vegetables, etc. They do have setups where you have easy access.

Boise's a rather cool town.
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Old 07-19-2014, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Moving back to the US
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I'm doing my research now obviously.

I plan to get a car, just not right away, so yes I do have to be able to walk to the grocery store with my buggy (I can't live without that thing) & if it's in the winter, that will be an issue if it's very very cold & there's ice & snow on the ground. I deal with buses & renting a car once in a blue moon for everything else.

I work from home, so jobs aren't important, but feeling comfortable in the house or apt. is.

The reason I don't want a small town is b/c there are less options & things end up costing more in the long run. I do want a quiet area though, no one blasting their music 24/7.

My initial budget per month for rent (not utilities) is $500-600 & I don't want a dangerous neighborhood. I'd only consider a roommate if the house was huge so we had our privacy.

I don't want freezing cold in the winter which is one of the reasons why I initially wanted FL, but now I don't know, b/c I want a place where renters are respected, not ripped off & someone said that's NOT FL, so I'm opening up my mind to other areas of the country.

I also want friendly open minded people & I'm a very holistic spiritually conscious person (don't believe in religion). There's always people like that everywhere, I just prefer to have more choices as I really want to start Qi Gong again & maybe start yoga. I know Cali is huge on that.

I don't want constant rain, so Seattle & Portland are out, but I heard one city in OR doesn't have that much rain. I just heard that Seattle has the highest suicide rate in all of the US. I don't need sun every day, but I don't want overcast every day either.

I'm trying to get the most important things I want in an area & go from there.

I didn't think I could afford Cali, but those cities may be within my range. I'm just concerned about the area & if there's no transit around, forget about it, it won't work for me.

I care about good food & I eat a lot of veggies, so I care about tasty none rotting vegetables. The veggies here at Smith's in Vegas look like they are on their last legs & it's been like this for weeks now. Now the lemons are like baseballs, have no juice & taste terrible & I'm a HUGE consumer of lemons.

While I won't be going out to restaurants every week or even every month, when I do go to one, I want to enjoy myself which chefs that know how to cook & don't mean expensive, I actually prefer the mom & pop restaurants where it's home made food. I love ethnic food too, but I'd do without that so long as the food is good.

As for gardening, I just can't, I don't have the energy or strength for that although I've always wanted to have my own garden. If I could buy from a neighbor or they could help me with the garden & I just helped with the expenses, I'm game with that, but I'm guessing I'd still have to buy from a store as who can have EVERY vegetable in their garden.

Co-ops are great when they are run by nice people, but you usually have to have a car to get the items & I'd want to share with someone as I'm by myself.

Thank you to all.
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Old 07-19-2014, 11:12 PM
 
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Columbus.
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Old 07-20-2014, 12:06 AM
 
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Pretty much any Southern port city is going to have a lot of organic produce shipped in from other countries, and the cost of living is low. Of course freshness is not guaranteed, and many of the residents look on co-ops with suspicion, fearing that they might be socialist or communist.
1) Plenty of Southern cities have access to local produce, at least seasonally. Despite popular belief, California isn't the only place that produce is grown in the United States. And we can get it fresh, too.

2) "Many residents look on co-ops with suspicion, fearing that they might be socialist or communist"...Congratulations! You win the prize for the most ridiculous and unfounded statement of the day! Can you please share with us how you came to this conclusion, or where you came across this hot garbage nonsense?
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Old 07-20-2014, 01:09 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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......2) "Many residents look on co-ops with suspicion, fearing that they might be socialist or communist"...Congratulations! You win the prize for the most ridiculous and unfounded statement of the day! Can you please share with us how you came to this conclusion, or where you came across this hot garbage nonsense?
Oh, I was just having some fun with stereotyping, based on what I read from some Southern posters here and on other forums. The kind of people who think that California is the land of fruits and nuts, and will someday break off and fall into the ocean under the weight of its sins.
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