Predominantly African-American cities with low crime... (sex offender, murders, registered)

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Jeff Jarrett

How do you explain the fact that out of the 25 most dangerous cities in America in 2007, all have either a Black majority or a very large Black minority that is significantly higher than the national average of 12%.

Safest and Most Dangerous U.S. Cities, 2007 — Infoplease.com

1.Detroit 81.6% Black
2.St. Louis 51.2% Black
3.Flint 53.3% Black
4.Oakland 35.7% Black
5.Camden 53.3% Black
6.Birmingham 73.5% Black
7.North Charleston 49.4% Black
8.Memphis 61.4% Black
9.Richmond, California 36.1% Black
10.Cleveland 51% Black
11.Orlando 26.9% Black
12.Baltimore 64.3% Black
13.Little Rock 40.4% Black
14.Compton 40.3% Black
15.Youngstown 43.8% Black
16.Cincinnati 42.9% Black
17.Gary 84% Black
18.Kansas City, Missouri 31.2% Black
19.Dayton 43.1% Black
20.Newark 53.5% Black
21.Philadelphia 43.2% Black
22.Atlanta 61.4% Black
23.Jackson 70.6% Black
24.Buffalo 37.2% Black
25.Kansas City, Kansas 30.1% Black

So I would rather live in my safe "hicktown" than to live in any place that is majority Black/ has a very large Black population.

Have you ever asked "why" there are so many problems with crime in the African-American community rather than writing everyone off? That might be what the statistics say. I am aware that the cities with very high murder rates have large African-American population, but have you ever asked "why" there are so many problems? Have you looked at other factors?
For the record, I live in a town that can be described as "hick" and I am more afraid to walk home in the dark there than I would normally be in an urban area. My reason is that the crime in rural areas is more spread out and if something happens, it can be hidden or there is no place to hide.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

Have you ever asked "why" there are so many problems with crime in the African-American community rather than writing everyone off? That might be what the statistics say. I am aware that the cities with very high murder rates have large African-American population, but have you ever asked "why" there are so many problems? Have you looked at other factors?
For the record, I live in a town that can be described as "hick" and I am more afraid to walk home in the dark there than I would normally be in an urban area. My reason is that the crime in rural areas is more spread out and if something happens, it can be hidden or there is no place to hide.

Also, this needs to be put into perspective as there are good parts of most of these cities that will have there share of Black residents. Then, when you get into predominately Black suburbs and small towns that generally have lower crime rates too.

You also have to think about other crimes of a reckless manner that result in death like drunk or reckless driving that might effect certain communities more than others, for example. So, all communities have their crosses to bare in terms of crime.

[jacksonian]

I live in a city with a 70% black population. Locally, most of the murders are what they call "black on black" violence. Most of the time, it is intentional and not random. Occasionally, there will be a break-in that results in the death of a homeowner, but there have also been instances of homeowners shooting/killing thieves. There use to be a "code" that the black communities lived by, and that simply meant that the criminals would not commit crimes in their home area, but now that times have become more difficult, that "code" has become less significant. Also, most of the crimes committed are by teenagers or those in their 20's.

[costello_musicman]

I live in Cleveland, and a statistic came out last year that only 16% of African American households in the city limits where the "traditional" married couple with children. That means a LARGE majority of the Black youths are growing up in single parent and broken homes.

IMO that is one of the biggest contributing factors in generations repeating the cycles of crime and poverty.

I'm not an expert on how to fix these problems by any means, but I just wanted to point out the statistic.

[thriftylefty]

Sociologist long ago used to talk about the "Fabric of Society." IMO, rising crime figures are an indication that the fabric is being stretched too thin for every one to have some community connections to each other. Those connections are the weaves of this fabric, Urban areas have too many people living transitional situations. Rural areas are now experiencing this rise in crime because of job loss and transitional people coming and going . What I find significant about this list is cities like Gary and Jackson with relatively high percentages of blacks are lower on the list than say Oakland or Orlando which have lower black populations. I wonder if Gary (once the most populated city of blacks outside of Africa ?) has some remaing Social Fabric intact among its black inhabitants

[northstar22]

Originally Posted by costello_musicman

I live in Cleveland, and a statistic came out last year that only 16% of African American households in the city limits where the "traditional" married couple with children. That means a LARGE majority of the Black youths are growing up in single parent and broken homes.

IMO that is one of the biggest contributing factors in generations repeating the cycles of crime and poverty.

I'm not an expert on how to fix these problems by any means, but I just wanted to point out the statistic.

(emphasis mine)

[John McClane]

This maybe a casual observation without merit, but it seems that small towns with majority black populations are more crime free than their white counterparts.

Than explain why East St. Louis which is 97.7% Black, has a per capita murder rate that resembles that of a warzone country even though it is a small town with less than 30,000 people.
http://www.city-data.com/city/East-S...-Illinois.html


In 2007 for example they had a whopping murder rate of 101.9 per 100,000.

With a murder rate that extremely high, I would not be surprised if East St. Louis is the most dangerous small town in the world to live in.

You will not find a single small town in America that is predominantly White, that can compete with East St. Louis's sky high murder rate.

Even Brazilian cities like Rio De Janeiro and Sao Paulo do not have a murder rate as high as East St. Louis's.

[Thomas R.]

East St. Louis is indeed a very crime-ridden smallish black town. Although I think in some ways it's like a slum/ghetto of St. Louis or at least it's not exactly like "a small town" in the sense of some of the little black-majority towns in Oklahoma or Mississippi that've been mentioned. Also I think it's more murderous than most majority black towns in the free world. Maybe exempting Kingston, Jamaica and a few South African towns.

Still it is true many mostly black small towns are not particularly safe. A somewhat celebrated historically black small town is Eatonville, Florida. It's noted for the praise given it by Zora Neale Hurston, her father was once mayor of the town, but it's not particularly safe.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Eatonville-Florida.html

The murder rate is zero for most years, but the overall rate of violent crime seems a bit high in most years. Their rate of assault in particular seems fairly high.

[roboto]

My post will be controversial, but here goes. Please try not to be offended, white, black or other.

In the simplest terms, due to the mental domination and colonialization imposed by white conquerors (wether by colonialism, slavery or outright genocide) over the last 600 years or so, there has developed a high correlation between self-hatred and darkness of skin. Basically our subconsciousness has been filtered (through history, through capitalism, materialism of the western world, through images of beauty, etc) in such a way that we tend to look at our own worth through the eyes of lighter skinned people. Its something a white person could never really understand, because they already see the world through their 'own eyes', so to speak. Their history is their own imposed on us, their culture has been introduced to us and become dominant.

Ill break it down like this, darker people tend (remember this is a tendency not a generalization of ALL peoples) to value their own lives, their own communities less than lighter skinned people do. And Im honestly saying this as a brown skinned (darker than white, lighter than black) person who thinks I see both sides better than some. I see it in my own country in SE asia (where color even within family members plays a social role!), I see it in the US (where darker people are confined to slums, less sympathy for plight, have higher murder rates etc, more often than white counterparts), and Ive seen it in other countries Ive travelled to. Darker people do not value themselves and other dark people as highly as they do white people. White people also do the same towards their darker brothers, often subconsciously also. It creates a neverending cycle of self hate and its a problem of the subconscious. We all filter our own images of ourselves through 'white lenses', and as a result devalue our own importance and self worth. The result is higher crime rates among the darker peoples, because of this self imposed hate. Why do blacks constantly compare themselves to whites? Why do asians try to be like whites? Whites do not do this.

Many will not believe or understand me, especially if you are white. Some whites will get it if they have spent enough time in other countries or around black and brown people. Some black or brown people will disagree with me too. But if you really analyze it, I believe this is the fairest explanation one can conclude, and it truly is there.

I hate to say it like this, because I hate it and despise the self destructive tendencies of any people, particularly of my darker brothers all over the world, but this is the simplest I can break it down. Take it how you want.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by costello_musicman

I live in Cleveland, and a statistic came out last year that only 16% of African American households in the city limits where the "traditional" married couple with children. That means a LARGE majority of the Black youths are growing up in single parent and broken homes.

IMO that is one of the biggest contributing factors in generations repeating the cycles of crime and poverty.

I'm not an expert on how to fix these problems by any means, but I just wanted to point out the statistic.

Unfortunately, single parent homes are now a national problem as even around 30% of White homes are single parent homes, for example. Then, you have the divorce issue and that just adds to the issue with the breakdown of the family structure.