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Old 12-19-2007, 10:19 PM
 
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...are there any you could mention?

 
Old 12-19-2007, 10:25 PM
 
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...are there any you could mention?

New York City, surprisingly. The low-income population is in Jamaica Queens with many regards towards the African-American community. Crime has went down 75% since the 1990's. This is a defined improvement.

I cannot say the same about other cities though.
 
Old 12-19-2007, 11:33 PM
 
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New York is only 27% black. It is by no means predomiantly black or predominantly anything. It's way too diverse for one group to dominate.


Atlanta is the only city I can think of. Sure, Atlanta has rough spots, but truthfully they don't compare to most other major U.S. cities and even some smaller ones, like Birmingham, Memphis, and New Orleans. I know for a fact those three cities have crime rates that make the worst neighborhoods in Atlanta look like a country club.


Atlanta has a lot of wealth and prosperity, both in the inner city and in the suburbs, and it transcends race. Those other three cities have pockets of prosperity for blacks, but for the most part, blacks in those cities, like blacks in most major U.S. cities, live either in working class or downright poor neighborhoods. Contrary to popular belief, even amongst Atlantians, poor black neighborhoods are disappearing in Atlanta. There IS a slight trickle down effect taking place there. I know I've dogged out Atlanta before in the past, but truthfully it does do a lot of things right. Economic prosperity is one of those things. What the people and the leaders there do with all of that money generally is what's wrong with it, but I digress. That's an entirely different issue altogether.


Atlanta, like New York, is a lot more bark than bite. Two reasons - 1) at one point, Atlanta actually WAS the murder capital of America. This was back in the early to mid 1970s. Those days are long gone. 2) rap. I hate to say it, but there's so much rap out there now from Atlanta that talks about gangbanging and selling drugs, it gives you the impression that Atlanta is the cocaine dealing capital of the world. It's not. Sure drugs go in and out of the city but seriously - the city's not nearly as bad as what many tend to think it is. Many cities fare much worse.

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Old 12-20-2007, 10:03 AM
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New York is only 27% black. It is by no means predomiantly black or predominantly anything. It's way too diverse for one group to dominate.


Atlanta is the only city I can think of. Sure, Atlanta has rough spots, but truthfully they don't compare to most other major U.S. cities and even some smaller ones, like Birmingham, Memphis, and New Orleans. I know for a fact those three cities have crime rates that make the worst neighborhoods in Atlanta look like a country club.


Atlanta has a lot of wealth and prosperity, both in the inner city and in the suburbs, and it transcends race. Those other three cities have pockets of prosperity for blacks, but for the most part, blacks in those cities, like blacks in most major U.S. cities, live either in working class or downright poor neighborhoods. Contrary to popular belief, even amongst Atlantians, poor black neighborhoods are disappearing in Atlanta. There IS a slight trickle down effect taking place there. I know I've dogged out Atlanta before in the past, but truthfully it does do a lot of things right. Economic prosperity is one of those things. What the people and the leaders there do with all of that money generally is what's wrong with it, but I digress. That's an entirely different issue altogether.


Atlanta, like New York, is a lot more bark than bite. Two reasons - 1) at one point, Atlanta actually WAS the murder capital of America. This was back in the early to mid 1970s. Those days are long gone. 2) rap. I hate to say it, but there's so much rap out there now from Atlanta that talks about gangbanging and selling drugs, it gives you the impression that Atlanta is the cocaine dealing capital of the world. It's not. Sure drugs go in and out of the city but seriously - the city's not nearly as bad as what many tend to think it is. Many cities fare much worse.

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Yes, Atlanta is very prosperous, but 127 murders this year, considering this city has under 500,000 residents doesn't look good.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 10:40 AM
 
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New York City, surprisingly. The low-income population is in Jamaica Queens with many regards towards the African-American community. Crime has went down 75% since the 1990's. This is a defined improvement.

I cannot say the same about other cities though.
Jamaica Queens has rough spots. 50 cent is from south side Jamaica, it's ghetto.

But NYC isn't an african american city. I say it's more Hispanic than anything.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 12:23 PM
 
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I would say Albany, Georgia. Not just the city, but the whole metro is predominantly black. The metro population is 160,000 and 50% of the people are black. Albany has crime but compared to the cities of Atlanta, Jackson(Mississippi), Birmingham, Detroit, and Memphis it cannot compete.

Also Miramar, Florida. Only difference in this black population is that a substantial amount of people come from the carribean nations or are descendants of immigrants(Haiti, Jamaica, Bahamas, etc.).
 
Old 12-20-2007, 12:27 PM
 
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Also I forgot to mention Lauderhill, Florida.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 01:28 PM
 
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Yeah a couple of problems with this idea. Jamaica, Queens isn't THAT nice of a neighborhood first off. More to the point, not many African-Americans live in that part of Queens anymore. There are tons of black people there, but they are all from Jamaica and other places in the West Indies (Trinidad and Guyana).

West Indian black people seem much less prone to crime and are very upwardly mobile. There was a report out last year that the income of the black population in the borough of Queens is actually higher than that of the white population (but nearly the entire Black population of Queens is West Indian and not Southern/African-American)

The areas of NYC that have large populations of African-Americans who have their roots in the South (Alabama/Georgia/Mississippi) such as in the Bronx or in Brooklyn are usually pretty high crime and low income. There are some exceptions to this, however the population of African-Americans has been shrinking in NYC. Many African-Americans seem to be returning to the South or moving to other areas (such as the Poconos) from the NYC metro area.


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New York City, surprisingly. The low-income population is in Jamaica Queens with many regards towards the African-American community. Crime has went down 75% since the 1990's. This is a defined improvement.

I cannot say the same about other cities though.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 02:14 PM
 
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I would say Albany, Georgia. Not just the city, but the whole metro is predominantly black. The metro population is 160,000 and 50% of the people are black. Albany has crime but compared to the cities of Atlanta, Jackson(Mississippi), Birmingham, Detroit, and Memphis it cannot compete.

Also Miramar, Florida. Only difference in this black population is that a substantial amount of people come from the carribean nations or are descendants of immigrants(Haiti, Jamaica, Bahamas, etc.).
Those are my two exact examples. I'm surprised to see I'm not first with the latter.
 
Old 12-20-2007, 02:29 PM
 
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Jamaica Queens has rough spots. 50 cent is from south side Jamaica, it's ghetto.

But NYC isn't an african american city. I say it's more Hispanic than anything.

The Hispanic Community is not as large in New York City as it is in Los Angeles, but still big noneless.

New York City has a vast number of Jewish decends and Slavic decend. Those are probably the more recognizable ethnicities in New York City tri-state area.
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