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Old 09-27-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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Nowhere in Texas is part of the Eastern US. Texas is definitely Western(or Western South).
Uh, half of Texas is in the eastern half of the country. If you are saying that all of Texas is in the west, that would make parts of Missouri, Iowa, and Minnesota part of the west too... which is... laughable.


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There's more climatic, and topographic variation in the areas of California that you'd pass through on I-5 or the PCH, than what you'd find on I-95.
Uh topographic, but not climatic. Here is a climate map. I count 4 climates on the East Coast and 2 on the West Coast.


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Los Angeles County by its self has a variation in terms of micro-climates that you couldn't find in any one metro area on the East
Link to proof?


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I think you're underrating the many micro climates that you can find within any one single metro area in CA. You can't encounter the same variation that you'd find driving from Venice Beach to Big Bear CA anywhere on the east-coast.
So elevation changes = beauty now? You guys are hilarious how you keep changing your arguments.

Last edited by Xander_Crews; 09-27-2014 at 08:35 PM..

 
Old 09-27-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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Look up US scenery in google images, more than 90% of the pictures are from the Western half of the country.
 
Old 09-27-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy View Post
If someone finds the East to be more beautiful than the West that means that person finds temperate deciduous forest to be more beautiful than any other biome and doesn't care about geographic or topographical diversity, to the point where they are happier with only temperate deciduous forest over a variety of scenery. The vast majority of the East is temperate deciduous forest except for a small area in the south.
Actually, this statement is false; only in the Northeast, the wetter areas of the Midwest, and the inland and/or mountainous portions of the South will you find temperate deciduous forests. But in the Coastal South, a region from South Virginia down to Florida, and then west to the Texas Gulf Coast, the forests then become subtropical evergreen jungles, where fall foliage is naturally negligible to non-existent. All sorts of broadleaf evergreens, such as Live Oaks, magnolias, bay trees, and more, dominate these coastal South forests, with many palm trees in the mix (yes, wild palm trees native to the US). In addition, you have lots of colorful flowers, as well as huge vines and lianas that wrap around the trees. Some parts of the Coastal South can literally pass for the Amazon Jungle. Here are some pictures to give you an idea of what these forests look like:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2153/1...2fa3a8fd2f.jpg
http://www.natgeocreative.com/comp/SP/091/65354.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8...dc8dab86_c.jpg

By the time you get to South Florida, the forests become tropical rainforests, where many tree species common to the tropical Americas, such as the Mahogany tree, start showing up. The same thing happens to a lesser extent in South Texas:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oNLPZmVr_k...ve+hammock.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mock_Trail.jpg
http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/images...SabalMex36.jpg

In addition to such forests, you also have areas of marsh, as well as thick swamps loaded with huge trees draped with tropical Spanish moss. Mangrove forests and growths line the entire Gulf Coast, and then the Atlantic up to Georgia. In Florida, you have some of the largest coral reefs in the world. Many tropical animals common to Central and South America, such as caracaras, flamingos, jaguars, ocelots, peccaries, parrots, green jays, neotropic cormorants, anhingas, monkeys, etc, have their northern most ranges in the Coastal South. All are a part of the East. You also have varied environments and topography even amongst areas with the same biomes, such as the cooler environment created by the elevation of the Appalachians, as well as the many beautiful beaches, including the sugary white sands, and blue water of Destin, FL, and the vast expanse of the Great Lakes, and the Mississippi River Valley.

Lets not forget about the Great Plains, and the varied topography of the region(such as the Badlands). That can be found in the East too:
http://annemckinnell.com/blog/wp-con..._7383-Edit.jpg

Are we including the states of Texas and Oklahoma in the East? If so, then the East also has vast canyons, deserts, and tall, prominent land forms, and mountains that compare to those in the West:

http://img.geocaching.com/cache/dc0c...?rnd=0.9423313
http://allgoodprovisions.com/wp-cont...-Natl-Park.jpg
http://hikinglady.com/wp-content/upl...house-rock.jpg
http://g2.img-dpreview.com/74227646D...62D6D13BDC.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...whole_town.JPG

So with all that, including the varied topography and environments even within the biomes, the East certainly can't be said to be just mostly "Temperate Deciduous forests" by any stretch of imagination. Thats like me saying that the West is mostly mountains and deserts, but that is far from the truth.



With that being said, both regions have their own beauty, and charms, and I say that they are equally appealing, and beautiful.
 
Old 09-27-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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Farmland in the US. [http://people.uwec.edu/ivogeler/w270/farmla1.gif

Look at how much more farmland is in the East than the West. Farmland isn't natural scenery.

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Old 09-27-2014, 08:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Yn0hTnA View Post
Actually, this statement is false; only in the Northeast, the wetter areas of the Midwest, and the inland and/or mountainous portions of the South will you find temperate deciduous forests. But in the Coastal South, a region from South Virginia down to Florida, and then west to the Texas Gulf Coast, the forests then become subtropical evergreen jungles, where fall foliage is naturally [url = https://res.cloudinary.com/roadtrippers/image/upload/v1396515409/zabtaizrpi5va8izxd0c.png]negligible to non-existent.[/url]. All sorts of broadleaf evergreens, such as Live Oaks, magnolias, bay trees, and more, dominate these coastal South forests, with many palm trees in the mix (yes, wild palm trees native to the US). In addition, you have lots of colorful flowers, as well as huge vines and lianas that wrap around the trees. Some parts of the Coastal South can literally pass for the Amazon Jungle. Here are some pictures to give you an idea of what these forests look like:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2153/1...2fa3a8fd2f.jpg
http://www.natgeocreative.com/comp/SP/091/65354.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8...dc8dab86_c.jpg

By the time you get to South Florida, the forests become tropical rainforests, where many tree species common to the tropical Americas, such as the Mahogany tree, start showing up. The same thing happens to a lesser extent in South Texas:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oNLPZmVr_k...ve+hammock.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mock_Trail.jpg
http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/images...SabalMex36.jpg

In addition to such forests, you also have areas of marsh, as well as thick swamps loaded with huge trees draped with tropical Spanish moss. Mangrove forests and growths line the entire Gulf Coast, and then the Atlantic up to Georgia. In Florida, you have some of the largest coral reefs in the world. Many tropical animals common to Central and South America, such as caracaras, flamingos, jaguars, ocelots, peccaries, parrots, green jays, neotropic cormorants, anhingas, monkeys, etc, have their northern most ranges in the Coastal South. All are a part of the East. You also have varied environments and topography even amongst areas with the same biomes, such as the cooler environment created by the elevation of the Appalachians, as well as the many beautiful beaches, including the sugary white sands, and blue water of Destin, FL, and the vast expanse of the Great Lakes, and the Mississippi River Valley.

Lets not forget about the Great Plains, and the varied topography of the region(such as the Badlands). That can be found in the East too:
http://annemckinnell.com/blog/wp-con..._7383-Edit.jpg

Are we including the states of Texas and Oklahoma in the East? If so, then the East also has vast canyons, deserts, and tall, prominent land forms, and mountains that compare to those in the West:

http://img.geocaching.com/cache/dc0c...?rnd=0.9423313
http://allgoodprovisions.com/wp-cont...-Natl-Park.jpg
http://hikinglady.com/wp-content/upl...house-rock.jpg
http://g2.img-dpreview.com/74227646D...62D6D13BDC.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...whole_town.JPG

So with all that, including the varied topography and environments even within the biomes, the East certainly can't be said to be just mostly "Temperate Deciduous forests" by any stretch of imagination. Thats like me saying that the West is mostly mountains and deserts, but that is far from the truth.



With that being said, both regions have their own beauty, and charms, and I say that they are equally appealing, and beautiful.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but the East is mostly temperate deciduous forest.

http://biologycorner.com/resources/biome_map_key.gif
https://smartsite.ucdavis.edu/access...eek1/biome.jpg

Only far eastern Texas and Oklahoma are part of the East, if that. The Badlands are in the West.
 
Old 09-27-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Iaskwhy View Post
Farmland in the US. [http://people.uwec.edu/ivogeler/w270/farmla1.gif

Look at how much more farmland is in the East than the West. Farmland isn't natural scenery.
Nobody said it had to be "natural".

We are talking about what scenery people find beautiful. Are people not allowed to find scenery that is altered by man beautiful?
 
Old 09-27-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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All of this is subjective. It is pointless to be arguing about this on a "factual" basis.

I find openness most beautiful. Such as this (Both from Iowa, but pretty consistent throughout the Midwest)....

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8027/7...a78176a2_z.jpg

http://www.justice.gov/usao/ian/scen..._Landscape.jpg

Am I wrong to think the above places are more beautiful than these....


Glacier National Park...
http://hdwp.net/glacier_national_par...allpapers.html

Smoky Mountains.....
http://www.travelaroundusa.com/uploa...84054_orig.jpg
 
Old 09-27-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Grizzly Addams View Post
All of this is subjective. It is pointless to be arguing about this on a "factual" basis.

I find openness most beautiful. Such as this (Both from Iowa, but pretty consistent throughout the Midwest)....

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8027/7...a78176a2_z.jpg

http://www.justice.gov/usao/ian/scen..._Landscape.jpg

Am I wrong to think the above places are more beautiful than these....


Glacier National Park...
glacier national park wallpaper

Smoky Mountains.....
http://www.travelaroundusa.com/uploa...84054_orig.jpg
I agree completely with you.

It is completely subjective and it is perfectly reasonable for anyone to find any of the pictures you just linked to "more beautiful" than any other of the pics you linked to.

The people who prefer the west though, they will find some reason to complain about you if you say you prefer the picture of Iowa to the others. They can't help themselves, they can't just let you have your own opinion. (Not without trying to pound it home that what they prefer is more popular, "dramatic", "grand", whatever... They have to prove that in some fashion what they like is "more" than what you like.)
 
Old 09-27-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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The west, to me, is an inspiration of youth and raw power. The east is, to me, a display of age, wisdom, and lushness. I prefer the east even though I love the west.
 
Old 09-27-2014, 10:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Xander_Crews View Post
I agree completely with you.

It is completely subjective and it is perfectly reasonable for anyone to find any of the pictures you just linked to "more beautiful" than any other of the pics you linked to.

The people who prefer the west though, they will find some reason to complain about you if you say you prefer the picture of Iowa to the others. They can't help themselves, they can't just let you have your own opinion. (Not without trying to pound it home that what they prefer is more popular, "dramatic", "grand", whatever... They have to prove that in some fashion what they like is "more" than what you like.)
Is it resonable for someone to find this:

http://www.sportsturfonline.com/Medi...%20before2.JPG

more beautiful than this?

http://www.adirondack.net/images/fal...ks-heilman.jpg

Beauty is subjective right?


By the way, the West has much of the type of scenery that people seem to like on the East.

http://www.enlightphoto.com/views/bl...-1088a_750.jpg

http://www.miguelvieira.org/remember...Tamalpais1.jpg

http://www.elcaminocharters.com/Portals/6/LakeTahoe.jpg

http://www.astonhotels.com/assets/sl...merald-Bay.jpg

http://www.foodandwine.com/assets/im...s/original.jpg

lush enough?
Scenic Oregon - 1892603

http://www.bigskyfishing.com/scenic-...urg-loop-9.jpg

https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin...7624361321220/
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