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Old 08-02-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Running I-95 along the riverfront has to be in 2nd place then (arguably, 1st place); both disasters none the less. Although there is movement for reconnecting the cut-off city from the riverfront. I believe the plan is to bury I-95 or reroute it into the Vine Expressway somehow. Many cities made these interstate highway mistakes back in the '50s-'70s.
Burying I-95 is more realistic than rerouting it. Part of it is already buried anyway. It can conceivably be buried down to somewhere near the Walt Whitman Bridge. I also think it'd be good to bury I-76 through South Philadelphia, and tunnel it under University City to open up part of the Schuylkill River for redevelopment. The I-76 projects can be done in conjunction with desperately-needed, decades-overdue upgrades to modern Interstate standards. (I-95 is already compliant.)
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Old 08-02-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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For my current hometown Philly, it was the building of the Vine Street Expressway (I-676) connecting the Schuylkill Expressway with I-95, the Ben Franklin Bridge abound the Jersey suburbs. It's not that the connector was unnecessary - it's how it was built. Rather than tunneling, blocks of healthy and occupied residential stock was razed. Not only were those folks displaced, Center City's neighborhoods are now separated from those further north by a concrete barrier: https://maps.gstatic.com/m/streetvie...552730826,,0,0 The only good news is that a planned viaduct down South Street similar to the Vine Street Expressway was scuttled. Instead of being boxed in to the south as well, Center City spills seamlessly into Queen Village, Bella Vista, a Graduate Hospital on on further into South Philly. A dodge bullet indeed.
Totally agree with you. However closing Chestnut St, in Center City, to vehicular traffic was another idea that ended up failing miserably. No one talks about it now because it is best left forgotten.
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Old 08-02-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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Boston's urban renewal projects of the 60's. It's either the destruction of the Westend or the destruction of Scollay Square to put up Boston's "beautiful" new city hall.
I disagree with the West end, they replaced tenements with the best research hospital in the world which helped catalyze the resurgence of Boston.
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Old 08-02-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Back in Milwaukee
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For Milwaukee

-Building parking structures in prime realestate locations along the Milwaukee river in the heart of downtown.
-An unnecessary freeway that split the Third Ward area and downtown.
-A barely used bus depot built very close to the lake where something better could be.

There was probably an even more dumb decision in downtown Milwaukee but I can't think of any right now
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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- Concerning Philly, the plan is currently in motion to construct 13 more parks (14 total) equal or superior to Race St. pier (pictured a few pages back) on piers up and down the Delaware Riverfront. Additionally, a Delaware river trail is being constructed to link the pier parks from Penn Treaty park / Sugarhouse casino all the way down to deep in South Philadelphia (the major big box shopping plaza with the Home Depot). There are also talks of eventually bringing a street car to Columbus Blvd. All of these actions will undoubtedly activate the riverfront and create a plethora of interesting and unique travel destinations.



- Finally, the plans are being finalized to cap over Interstate 95 from Old City to Penn's Landing creating a Great Lawn with a variety of activities for tourists. Scroll down the page on the link provided for pictures...!

DRWC: Planning and Development
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Old 08-02-2014, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Center City
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- Concerning Philly, the plan is currently in motion to construct 13 more parks (14 total) equal or superior to Race St. pier (pictured a few pages back) on piers up and down the Delaware Riverfront. Additionally, a Delaware river trail is being constructed to link the pier parks from Penn Treaty park / Sugarhouse casino all the way down to deep in South Philadelphia (the major big box shopping plaza with the Home Depot). There are also talks of eventually bringing a street car to Columbus Blvd. All of these actions will undoubtedly activate the riverfront and create a plethora of interesting and unique travel destinations.



- Finally, the plans are being finalized to cap over Interstate 95 from Old City to Penn's Landing creating a Great Lawn with a variety of activities for tourists. Scroll down the page on the link provided for pictures...!

DRWC: Planning and Development
Philly has some amazing master plans for the Delaware riverfront. As far as I know, there is no money lined up to pull them off right now other than at Pier 68 (http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp....html?page=all). It's nice to have a vision to guide development however.

The real money is being spent on the Schuylkill River right now - it gets better and better (PlanPhilly | Schuylkill River boardwalk construction is buzzing along, in tune with tide).


(my pic)
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Old 08-02-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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What's obvious from this thread is that no US city is perfect and all have made serious mistakes through the years. Sadly, I'm not entirely sure we've learned from those mistakes.

Think about it: For every boneheaded decision mentioned on here, somebody in the past thought it was a GOOD idea at the time. What's there to say that all these great ideas being floated about now won't be considered boneheaded to generations down the road? Not to excuse the sins of our fathers, but you've got to figure the context of things. There's no way to predict the future.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:16 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I'm surprised no one from the other Texas cities jumped on this.

Because there's PLENTY to talk about in this subject for our cities...
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I'm surprised no one from the other Texas cities jumped on this.

Because there's PLENTY to talk about in this subject for our cities...
Really? When I lived there, I kept being told there ain't one damed thing wrong with Texas . . . exceptin' perhaps all them Yankees movin' down. You're just stirrin' up trouble fellow. Remember: Don't mess with Texas!
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:35 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Really? When I lived there, I kept being told there ain't one damed thing wrong with Texas . . . exceptin' perhaps all them Yankees movin' down. You're just stirrin' up trouble fellow. Remember: Don't mess with Texas!
For one, "Don't Mess with Texas" is really an anti-litter campaign. Really don't know how it became some kind of battle cry for the state.

And second, every Texan knows damn well that every one of our cities' cores had (and still has) some issues. Compare Downtown Dallas today with Downtown Dallas, say, 1955...
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