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Old 08-05-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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They were originally white!



The modern "hispanic" minority group is a recent political fabrication that was invented in the 80s. When my family was growing up in Texas, Spanish-Americans were just some kind of white people! They never heard of a "hispanic" until the late 80s nor did they think that people of Spanish origin were minorities. That was made up.
Spanish people (as in from Spain) are still considered white.

Most Hispanics in the US are mestizo or mulatto, and that's why they're considered a nonwhite group.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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Spanish people (as in from Spain) are still considered white.

Most Hispanics in the US are mestizo. Most Hispanics in the US are mestizo or mulatto, and that's why they're considered a nonwhite group.

They were perceived as white before even if they were "mestizo" looking . When interracial marriage was illegal, Mexicans could marry white.



The non-white "hispanic" category was politically invented.
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Old 08-05-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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They were perceived as white before even if they were "mestizo" looking . When interracial marriage was illegal, Mexicans could marry white.



The non-white "hispanic" category was politically invented.
But genetically they were never fully european
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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They were perceived as white before even if they were "mestizo" looking . When interracial marriage was illegal, Mexicans could marry white.



The non-white "hispanic" category was politically invented.
They might have been considered white on paper, but certainly weren't treated as white in real life.
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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They might have been considered white on paper, but certainly weren't treated as white in real life.

They were white everyday in real life for all purposes of what it meant to be white then. Especially in Texas.



A lot of people ask "where did 'hispanics' go during segregation?". They went to white public places. They drank from the white water fountain. They went to school with white children. The fought in the white units of the army. They played in the white major leagues.
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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They were white everyday in real life for all purposes of what it meant to be white then. Especially in Texas.



A lot of people ask "where did 'hispanics' go during segregation?". They went to white public places. They drank from the white water fountain. They went to school with white children. The fought in the white units of the army. They played in the white major leagues.
I'm not sure if that's entirely true, I have seen a picture from Texas during Jim Crow with a restaurant sign reading "No dogs, Negros, or Mexicans".
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Old 08-05-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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I'm not sure if that's entirely true

It is true. People who were witness to this are still living. When the South was legally segregated, Mexicans, Cubans, and all people of Spanish origin were white.



They were considered to be white catholics.



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I have seen a picture from Texas during Jim Crow with a restaurant sign reading "No dogs, Negros, or Mexicans".
That was rare. You can go back in time and find a sign that barred Italians, Jews, the Irish, etc.



Normally, Mexicans were permitted to go anywhere and do anything that was for whites only.
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Everything people are saying in this thread is BACKWARDS.



The people we call "hispanic" or "latino" today were white first, and then they were artificially made into a minority group in the 1980s when the "hispanic" term was introduced. They started out white and then came to be seen as non-white minorities just recently.



Plenty of people still living today remember the days when Mexicans were white.



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Very few Hispanics in the US would be considered to be White by people of mostly to all European origin.

In the harshest years of the Jim Crow era in the South, when race was the law, a brown-skinned black haired Mexican was white.


When Puerto Rican actress Rita Moreno started her career in hollywood in the 40s - 50s, she was a white woman. Hollywood was segregated and she was white. She wasn't a "Latina" or a "hispanic" minority back then. She's really honest about this.
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Old 08-06-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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Like Vincente Fox would probably be considered a white guy. I don't think David Ortiz would be.
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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Like Vincente Fox would probably be considered a white guy. I don't think David Ortiz would be.
Vincente Fox is mostly white. His mother was an immigrant to Mexico from the Basque country in Spain. His paternal grandfather was a German-American from Cincinnati. Only his paternal grandmother was of Mexican origin, thus he probably has a relatively insignificant percentage of Native American DNA.
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