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Old 10-07-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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How can anyone really appreciate anything, regardless of topography, doing 70 on an interstate? As with nearly everything, it's a lot more interesting out of your car.


Also, I will never understand people making the argument that topography is in any way a significant factor in quality of life. Even when there are mountains and oceans nearby, people are usually too busy working, raising families, going to school or watching Dancing with Vapid, 3rd-Rate Celebrities, to take advantage of them.
You make time otherwise it's on you. I live by natural beauty and don't take it for granted one second. We make time to enjoy natural beauty in our backyard
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Old 10-07-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Cbus
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How can anyone really appreciate anything, regardless of topography, doing 70 on an interstate? As with nearly everything, it's a lot more interesting out of your car.


Also, I will never understand people making the argument that topography is in any way a significant factor in quality of life. Even when there are mountains and oceans nearby, people are usually too busy working, raising families, going to school or watching Dancing with Vapid, 3rd-Rate Celebrities, to take advantage of them.
This x 1000.

I am sure Big Bend National Park offers great hiking and vistas. I could realistically spend a day or two there and then would likely get bored. The fact that is has pretty mountains doesn't mean I rather live Brewster County, Texas over Minneapolis, Columbus, Chicago, Madison, Cleveland etc.
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Old 10-07-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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I just Googled Big Bend, and found that the park is shared with Mexico. I guess if you live on the border, you could probably enjoy the park on a frequent basis. The thing about the Great Lakes, is you can live next to them, in a city that offers what a city offers. To me, that trumps a park on the Mexican border, that I would have to drive to and from. It's beautiful, but, at least to me, doesn't trump Great Lakes living.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I just Googled Big Bend, and found that the park is shared with Mexico. I guess if you live on the border, you could probably enjoy the park on a frequent basis. The thing about the Great Lakes, is you can live next to them, in a city that offers what a city offers. To me, that trumps a park on the Mexican border, that I would have to drive to and from. It's beautiful, but, at least to me, doesn't trump Great Lakes living.
But that was not the discussion. The discussion was that someone said that all of Texas was boring and flat compared to the Midwest. I was trying to show that it isn't.

Oh, and BWCA is just as far from civilization as Big Bend is...
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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But that was not the discussion. The discussion was that someone said that all of Texas was boring and flat compared to the Midwest. I was trying to show that it isn't.

Oh, and BWCA is just as far from civilization as Big Bend is...
BWCA holds no interest for me...I was speaking of the Great Lakes...those, I love.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Just googled the big bend - I must say I had no idea that place existed. Absolutely gorgeous!

There are some stunning shorelines in the upper Midwest on the Great Lakes. Northern MN, UP of Michigan, Door County WI.

The Driftless Region in MN/WI is in some places reminiscent of the smoky mountains.

BWCA in Northern MN is an incredible unspoiled northern forest/lakes area.
Those far northern areas are way, way underappreciated by people not from the immediate area.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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Those far northern areas are way, way underappreciated by people not from the immediate area.
You're right. I would always choose the Midwest over many areas. It just seems to be easy for some people to "underappreciate" the Midwest. I know that I totally "underappreciate" some other areas of the country, though, so I guess it goes both ways.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You're right. I would always choose the Midwest over many areas. It just seems to be easy for some people to "underappreciate" the Midwest. I know that I totally "underappreciate" some other areas of the country, though, so I guess it goes both ways.
I'm from Tennessee, but have lived in Indiana and Iowa. The lower Midwest isn't exactly a pretty place overall (there are exceptions), but much of the lower South isn't it. IMO, there isn't a lot of beauty from like upstate South Carolina/north GA until you get down to central FL or so.

The upper Midwest has a lot of beauty, but nobody except Chicago tourists and locals know about it.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Challenge: Name one "natural" thing in the Midwest that stands up to Big Bend. We are talking natural scenery here.
The Black Hills in South Dakota is a fair comparison. Not as large an area but has several nice features and an interesting history.

FWIW:
Highest point in Big Bend - Emory Peak at 7825ft
Highest point in Black Hills - Harneys/Black Elk peak at 7242ft.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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someone said that all of Texas was boring and flat compared to the Midwest. I was trying to show that it isn't.
That's not at all what was said. This is:

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there is no section of the Midwest the size of Texas which is anywhere near as flat as Texas
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