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Old 08-30-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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New Orleans. The city always had a unique culture and beautiful architecture, but the economy of the city was going downhill for decades and the crime rate was really high. Since Katrina the city has recovered very well. Crime is still high, but is decreasing, and the city is much more vibrant and business friendly, and there are a lots of transplants moving in to the city who appreciate its character but want to help fix many of its problems. There is a ton of renovation as well as new construction in the city.
You know, in a weird way, Katrina sort of helped New Orleans. I can't believe how different (in positive ways) Nawlins is now, compared to the early 2000s before Katrina.
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Old 08-30-2014, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Well....you know...you might have something there

I've never heard anyone in Milwaukee refer to it as "a rust belt city." That's something people outside the area do.
Right - like people who call the South the "bible belt."

These sorts of generalizations are sort of stupid but I guess they're inevitable. Humans feel some sort of need to categorize I guess, and that invariably invokes stereotypes, many of which are negative.
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Everytime I visit Pittsburgh I see progress being made... there is always something new.

Visit st. Louis, same old crap... nothing really new since the Edward Jones Dome (and that is really beginning to show its age)
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Great article about Cleveland's renaissance in the Wall Street Journal:

Just in Time for LeBron: Downtown Cleveland Stages a Comeback - WSJ
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Old 08-31-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Here's an interesting blog post from Pete Saunders that details some of the transformation happening in "Rust Belt" cities. Of interest are the two graphs he put together:





His blog post was inspired by this article, and he was also surprised to learn that Detroit was doing a better job of attracting college-educated talent than he thought. He was under the impression that Detroit was lagging because there was no major university in the metropolitan area (the University of Michigan is not).

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Everytime I visit Pittsburgh I see progress being made... there is always something new.

Visit st. Louis, same old crap... nothing really new since the Edward Jones Dome (and that is really beginning to show its age)
St. Louis seems to have some nice areas to the west and southwest of downtown, no? It also seems to be doing a slightly better job of producing and attracting college-educated young adults than its total population of all college-educated adults would suggest.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Everytime I visit Pittsburgh I see progress being made... there is always something new.

Visit st. Louis, same old crap... nothing really new since the Edward Jones Dome (and that is really beginning to show its age)
Try harder DP... Whenever I go back there are tons of new things/changes. What are you talking about nothing new since the dome? When did you last go back???
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Old 08-31-2014, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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I'd like to point out that there are some of us who like our cities a little "rusty," hence the term "rust belt chic." So, the presence of "rust" isn't necessarily an indicator of continued decline.
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:57 AM
 
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I'd like to point out that there are some of us who like our cities a little "rusty," hence the term "rust belt chic." So, the presence of "rust" isn't necessarily an indicator of continued decline.

I'd agree there's definitely been an urban 'rust belt chic' (I've never heard that term, but it works) thing going on that's making people want to set up shop in places like Detroit and Braddock, Pa.
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Old 09-01-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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Here's an interesting blog post from Pete Saunders that details some of the transformation happening in "Rust Belt" cities. Of interest are the two graphs he put together:





His blog post was inspired by this article, and he was also surprised to learn that Detroit was doing a better job of attracting college-educated talent than he thought. He was under the impression that Detroit was lagging because there was no major university in the metropolitan area (the University of Michigan is not).



St. Louis seems to have some nice areas to the west and southwest of downtown, no? It also seems to be doing a slightly better job of producing and attracting college-educated young adults than its total population of all college-educated adults would suggest.
Well Wayne State University (the 3rd largest university in Michigan) and Oakland University are both in Metro Detroit. UofM is literally one county away from Detroit, there are places in the Detroit MSA that are twice as far from downtown Detroit as Ann Arbor is. And then there are dozens of smaller colleges in the area as well.

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Many of the rust belt areas are better than South FL. South FL is loaded with crime, illegal aliens, severe traffic congestion and tons of *stupid* and FAKE people. And the wages don't even pay in scale with the cost of living at all. I'd rather live the area known as the rust belt.
Agreed . It isn't nearly as special as people try to make it out to be. And the income for whatever reason is pretty low.
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Old 09-01-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Try harder DP... Whenever I go back there are tons of new things/changes. What are you talking about nothing new since the dome? When did you last go back???
About 1.5 years ago.

Nothing changes. That's a good thing some people. Not for me.
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