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Old 09-02-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm betting Downtown Pittsburgh is adding a bunch of new residential as well. Downtown Cleveland will be at around 15K-16K within the next 2-3 years when all the major residential projects are finished.
Yep. 15222 (Downtown Pittsburgh, including the adjacent Strip District) is adding thousands of new residential units. With that being said the majority of these proposed units are outside the 0.66-square mile "Triangle" Eschaton referenced.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I'm betting Downtown Pittsburgh is adding a bunch of new residential as well. Downtown Cleveland will be at around 15K-16K within the next 2-3 years when all the major residential projects are finished.
Absoulutely. The old Alcoa building is being transformed into apartments, which will be huge. There are also a number of smaller residential conversions going on here and there, mainly in the Cultural District and First Side, which are steadily adding units in the dozens.

Downtown's residential renaissance, while real, isn't where all the action is these days however, since as I noted, so many other portions of the city are doing well. The nearby Strip District is seeing 1,400 new units in the next several years. New apartment buildings are starting to go up in Uptown now, which is also next to downtown. South Side, Lawrenceville, and East Liberty all continue to add new apartment units by the hundreds. There's even plans for new apartment buildings which will add hundreds of units in Oakland - which hasn't seen new residential construction since the 1970s. Really the market is strong virtually everywhere right there's demand and enough underutilized area to plop down new structure.
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Speaking of brain gain/these cities in general:

Rank Metro Area 2000 2012 Change in % of Total Adult (25+) Pop.

1 Pittsburgh, PA 396,981 (23.4%) 513,838 (30.5%) 7.11%
2 Minn-SPl-Blmngtn, MN-WI 633,112 (33.3%) 881,581 (39.5%) 6.20%
3 St. Louis, MO-IL 435,940 (24.8%) 586,547 (30.8%) 5.93%
4 Chicago-Jt-Nlle, IL-IN-WI 1,679,306 (29.0%) 2,190,424 (34.8%) 5.83%
5 Columbus, OH 291,995 (28.3%) 419,136 (34.1%) 5.76%
6 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 260,705 (26.5%) 377,189 (32.1%) 5.59%
7 Milwaukee-Wk-W Allis, W. 260,981 (27.0%) 337,253 (32.5%) 5.51%
8 Kansas City, MO-KS 334,225 (28.0%) 460,391 (33.5%) 5.49%
9 Louisville/JeffCo, KY-IN 163,080 (21.2%) 233,566 (26.5%) 5.37%
10 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 676,906 (23.2%) 819,347 (28.2%) 5.01%
11 Cincinnati-Mid, OH-KY-IN 319,469 (24.8%) 419,714 (29.6%) 4.78%
12 Cleveland-Elyria-Ment, OH 343,103 (23.9%) 405,731 (28.5%) 4.58%





Rank Metro Area 2000 2012 Total Change Pct Change
1 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 260,705 377,189 116,484 44.68%
2 Columbus, OH 291,995 419,136 127,141 43.54%
3 Louisville/Jeff Co, KY-IN 163,080 233,566 70,486 43.22%
4 Minneapolis-SP-Blton, MN-WI 633,112 881,581 248,469 39.25%
5 Kansas City, MO-KS 334,225 460,391 126,166 37.75%
6 St. Louis, MO-IL 435,940 586,547 150,607 34.55%
7 Cincinnati-Mtown, OH-KY-IN 319,469 419,714 100,245 31.38%
8 Chicago-Joliet-Nville, IL-IN-W 1,679,306 2,190,424 511,118 30.44%
9 Pittsburgh, PA 396,981 513,838 116,857 29.44%
10 Milwaukee-Wkesha-W Allis, WI 260,981 337,253 76,272 29.23%
11 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 676,906 819,347 142,441 21.04%
12 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 343,103 405,731 62,628 18.25%





Rank Municipality 2000 2012 Total Change Pct Change
1 St. Louis city, MO 42,338 65,161 22,823 53.91%
2 Columbus city, OH 128,058 177,251 49,193 38.41%
3 Pittsburgh city, PA 57,267 77,500 20,233 35.33%
4 Chicago city, IL 462,783 623,484 160,701 34.72%
5 Kansas City city, MO 73,824 98,806 24,982 33.84%
6 Minneapolis city, MN 91,027 119,231 28,204 30.98%
7 Milwaukee city, WI 64,742 79,520 14,778 22.83%
8 Indy city (balance), IN 127,608 152,998 25,390 19.90%
9 Cleveland city, OH 33,949 38,369 4,420 13.02%
10 Cincinnati city, OH 55,215 56,938 1,723 3.12%
11 Detroit city, MI 61,836 56,770 -5,066 -8.19%



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Old 09-02-2014, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Grrr! I spent a ton of time editing that so it was nice and neat....
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Old 09-02-2014, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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It's more about what's next to the sand and water in my opinion. Most of the Jersey Shore is kind of trailer park-esque. Jacksonville Beach and Ponte Vedra Beach are quite a bit more upmarket.

Jacksonville Beach looked the same as parts of the NJ Shore to me honestly. Now Ponte Vedra was very nice outside of the beach and water. Beach is also very, very narrow and was eroded.
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Apparently this is what Philadelphia's skyline will look like by the end of the decade, based only on dirt that's already been moved.
All of these projects will be completed by 2017 - three years from now, let alone 2020, which I'm sure even more skyscrapers will be completed by then.

Out of this, Evo is practically completed. FMC Tower will be complete by 2016. SLS International will be completed by 2016. Comcast Innovation and Technology Center will be completed by 2017.

Notable omissions from this picture which you would be able to see includes 2116 Chestnut- recently complete. Chestnut Square - recently complete. 2040 Market - recently complete. Drexel LeBow College of Business - recently complete. As well as Lancaster Square - under construction. 38Chestnut - under construction. 3601 Market - under construction. 1919 Market - site prep. W & Element by Westin - starting this month. One Riverside - starting in November. 1601 Vine - starting in November.

There is a ton of skyscraper/highrise development coming to Philadelphia.

This image pretty much includes everything that should be completed by 2020
http://www.city-data.com/forum/membe...10342-east.jpg

Skyline from the Sports Complex in South Philly with everything being developed
http://www.city-data.com/forum/membe...iew-infill.jpg
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Old 09-02-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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Jacksonville Beach looked the same as parts of the NJ Shore to me honestly. Now Ponte Vedra was very nice outside of the beach and water. Beach is also very, very narrow and was eroded.
You were there in the 90s. Jax Beach and even Neptune Beach are much nicer now. Jacksonville as a whole has changed tremendously in just the past decade. Expect the transformation to continue...only wish it would happen faster though.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Old 09-10-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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I think South FL deserves more praise than that in fact I think its a perfect example of renaissance with tons of new construction happening all the time. Many people are realizing it is great place to raise families as well as for singles alike. Immigrants are not the problem an frankly your post comes off kind of arrogant. Last time I checked Connecticut was not even on people's radar. But tons of Connecticut residents want to move here tho thanks us offering a good lifestyle a little cheaper. Also crime an traffic are major problems for any city but I guess you didn't know that since you come off as ignorant.
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Old 09-11-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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A lot seems to be a Cleveland VS Pittsburgh thread. I read post saying how nearby areas near Bigger cities will benefit when the large city is gentrified and displaces more? Well You do realize that poorer classes moving from the larger cities is occurring? For example, I live in small town PA east central. Cheap housing in old stock row homes are plenty. People moving in from Philly, NYC boroughs and even Allentown/Bethlehem areas. Are seeking better schools free of gangs, for their children and cheap housing. Many ethnic groups in the mix. But jobs are not the primary reasons for many, because the jobs are not there to support more in these small old towns. What I am saying is some large cities are loosing unskilled groups. But gaining in high skilled people gentrifying areas. With northern cities undergoing gentrification. They show population losses of poorer families. But gain in highly educated generally childless singles and couples. I for one am happy if all of our formerly titled Rust Belt cities all continue a renaissance. But much depends on our economy. So many downtown projects got cancelled by our economic crash in 2008.
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