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Old 08-25-2014, 05:59 AM
 
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South Philadelphia is more "Little Saigon" than "Little Italy" these days, no?
The Italian community has really thinned in the past 15-20 years it seems, particularly in terms of the Italian Market shops.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:05 AM
 
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South Philadelphia is more "Little Saigon" than "Little Italy" these days, no?
No, there is still a lot of Italians in South Philadelphia as whole and they easily exceed the growing Vietnamese population. For example, Packer park is still a heavily Italian area of South Philadelphia. It sounds like you are only talking about the immediate area south of the itallian market, which has a large Vietnamese population. You do realize that South Philadelphia has a lot more to it than just the italian market area right? That is just one section of South Philly. With that said, certain areas of South Philly are definitely not as Italian as it once was because it's a lot more diverse. However with that said, Philadelphia still has the 2nd largest Italian American city population in the us after NYC and South Philly is still one of the main concentrations of the Italian population in the city.

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Old 08-25-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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South Philadelphia is more "Little Saigon" than "Little Italy" these days, no?
Syracuse's North Side is very similar in this regard. There still is an Italian presence in both areas, but as mentioned, it is decreasing slowly in some parts. You can view info for both or other areas here: Philadelphia, PA

Syracuse, NY

You can view info at various level listed to the right of the map.

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Old 08-25-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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Boston, Philadelphia and Chicago proper:

Boston includes the North End (though it only had 6,300 people) and East Boston:

02113, 10.5%
02128, 5.9%

Another zip code, 02109, comes in at 8.2%, though it only had a population of about 3,400.

2 zip codes in South Philadelphia make the cut:

19148, 5.5%
19145, 5.3%

And in Chicago, there's one Northwest Side zip code. Chicago's old-school Italians are clustered more in the inner-ring suburbs:

60656, 5.4%
To clarify, the North End and the 2 South Philadelphia ZIP codes are about one third Italian American, East Boston about one quarter and the Chicago ZIP code one sixth.

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Old 08-25-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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Yonkers also has a sizeable Italian speaking population in 2 zip codes:

10704, 9.8%
10710, 5.3%
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:56 PM
 
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The Yonkers 10704 neighborhood (Dunwoodie neighborhood) is usually referred to as Little Italy.
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:10 PM
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To clarify, the North End and the 2 South Philadelphia ZIP codes are about one third Italian American, East Boston about one quarter and the Chicago ZIP code one sixth.
Interesting that the North End has a little bit of authenticity left. Did seem like there were some older Italian-Americans left. East Boston is mostly hispanic today, so most of the whites that stayed were Italian-American. I take Little Italy in Manhattan has no Italian presence left, or at least no more than the surrounding areas of Manhattan in general?
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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Yes, I've been to both the Manhattan Little Italy and the North End several times and the latter feels much more authentic. I don't think I've ever seen any old school Italians or heard Italian spoken in the Manhattan one but I certainly have in the North End. The Little Italy in Manhattan I suppose was already on the decline decades before the postwar immigrants came to the US so they went to the Italian neighborhoods in the outer boroughs particularly those of southern Brooklyn. With 6,000 the North End obviously has seen its Italian American population drop significantly as well, but it retained its Italian character. According to historian James Pasto, it was again a reception area for postwar immigrants:

Coming to America
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Old 08-25-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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19147 (actually my home zip) is 21.5% Italian - this where the Italian market is actually

would say you can still feel the Italian influence, there is a boce ball court in a pocket park on my block

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19147 is basically Bella Vista and Queen Village - QV feels much less Italian though still a lot

lots of new asian and mexicans into the area but are still a minority -well maybe not at 11th and Washington

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Old 08-25-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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I take Little Italy in Manhattan has no Italian presence left, or at least no more than the surrounding areas of Manhattan in general?
Not until the Feast of San Gennaro...
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