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View Poll Results: Which states do you believe belong in the Mid-Atlantic region?
New York 75 61.48%
New Jersey 87 71.31%
Pennsylvania 88 72.13%
Delaware 92 75.41%
Maryland 92 75.41%
Virginia 60 49.18%
West Virginia 25 20.49%
North Carolina 15 12.30%
Other (please specify) 4 3.28%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-08-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: USA
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the east coast of the usa between the north atlantic and the south atlantic, so half would be in the south and half would be in the north to make it whole.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I'm afraid I agree with her. Baltimore feels very similar to northern cities and quite different from southern cities, as I experience them. You seem to feel Baltimore is a southern city, however, if I am reading your posts correctly. Why is that? Do you, for example, feel Baltimore is more similar to Philly or Norfolk?
This can be answered objectively to some degree. Again, here is the Italian/Irish/Polish/Jewish breakdown for different metros.

New York - 30.13% of MSA (61.76% of non-Hispanic Whites)
Philadelphia - 32.67% of MSA (53.05% of non-Hispanic Whites)
Baltimore - 21.75% of MSA (36.28% of non-Hispanic Whites)
Washington - 15.65% of MSA (32.25% of non-Hispanic Whites)
Hampton Roads - 13.25% of MSA (23.16% of non-Hispanic Whites)
Richmond - 12.07% of MSA (20.07% of non-Hispanic Whites)

The difference between 32.67 (Philly) and 21.75 (Baltimore) is 10.92. The difference between Baltimore (21.75) and Hampton Roads (13.25) is 8.50. That's obviously closer to Hampton Roads than it is to Philadelphia. However, these are still all Mid Atlantic cities that share Mid Atlantic culture and are economically linked together by Northeast Regional Rail.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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The thing people below the Mason-Dixon line don't seem to understand about the north is the biggest difference is the breed of whites that live above it are a different mix from the whites below it.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I think the bulk of Virginia's Mid-Atlantic identification is with NOVA.
Hampton Roads is every bit as Mid Atlantic as DC or New York.

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Since 1989, Hampton Roads has been the Mid-Atlantic leader in U.S. waterborne foreign commerce and is ranked second nationally behind the Port of South Louisiana based on export tonnage.
Hampton Roads - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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If you divide the east coast into three parts, the mid-atlantic is the middle area between maine and florida, so it would technically begin at long island, ny and end at the northeastern coast of north Carolina.

Basically Montauk, Ny to Hampton roads, Elizabeth city and Nags Head, something like that; maybe to Cape Hatteras really.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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The thing people below the Mason-Dixon line don't seem to understand about the north is the biggest difference is the breed of whites that live above it are a different mix from the whites below it.
Who doesn't understand that?

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Hampton Roads is every bit as Mid Atlantic as DC or Baltimore.



Hampton Roads - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
FYP
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Center City
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The difference between 32.67 (Philly) and 21.75 (Baltimore) is 10.92. The difference between Baltimore (21.75) and Hampton Roads (13.25) is 8.50. That's obviously closer to Hampton Roads than it is to Philadelphia. However, these are still all Mid Atlantic cities that share Mid Atlantic culture and are economically linked together by Northeast Regional Rail.
These demographic differences don't strike me as terribly dramatic (10.9 v 8.5). I suppose if one relied heavily on the white ethnic make-up of cities, they might feel feel compelled to offer a definitive view as to whether Baltimore feels more like Philly or Norfolk - dunno. I am interested in better understanding what is behind KodeBlue's views, as he and his GF apparently see Baltimore differently.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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These demographic differences don't strike me as terribly dramatic (10.9 v 8.5). I suppose if one relied heavily on the white ethnic make-up of cities, they might feel feel compelled to offer a definitive view as to whether Baltimore feels more like Philly or Norfolk - dunno. I am interested in better understanding what is behind KodeBlue's views, as he and his GF apparently see Baltimore differently.
They aren't "terribly dramatic." It's just that as an objective matter--which nobody can really fudge or soften with language like "truly" and "really"--Baltimore is more demographically similar to Norfolk than it is to Philadelphia. I was also researching the Baltimore Puerto Rican community, but could find no such thing. Given that there are around 130,000 Boricuas alone in the city of Philadelphia, I'd imagine it would also feel a bit different from Baltimore in that respect too.


Puerto Rican Flag Raising 2013 at City Hall in Philadelphia - YouTube


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixWB0944dTw
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:03 PM
 
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Who doesn't understand that?

FYP

I'm not talking about you cuz. You see it already.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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I'm not talking about you cuz. You see it already.
I can dig it
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