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View Poll Results: Which states do you believe belong in the Mid-Atlantic region?
New York 75 61.48%
New Jersey 87 71.31%
Pennsylvania 88 72.13%
Delaware 92 75.41%
Maryland 92 75.41%
Virginia 60 49.18%
West Virginia 25 20.49%
North Carolina 15 12.30%
Other (please specify) 4 3.28%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-26-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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I never heard of the term "Mid-Atlantic" until city data. Now I have heard of the historical term "Middle colonies" but that's it. I think PA, NJ and NY should be considered a new term called the "North Atlantic" which together with the New England states create the Northeast and DE, MD and VA (though most of VA is still a solidly southern state) can be considered mid atlantic states which would be the grey area/neutral/transitional (whatever you want to call them) states located in between the Northeast and the South. Technically via the census, the Mid Atlantic states are PA, NJ and NY (which together with the New England states create the Northeast) and DE, MD, and VA are south Atlantic states in the Southern U.S.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I never heard of the term "Mid-Atlantic" until city data. Now I have heard of the historical term "Middle colonies" but that's it. I think PA, NJ and NY should be considered a new term called the "North Atlantic" which together with the New England states create the Northeast and DE, MD and VA (though most of VA is still a solidly southern state) can be considered mid atlantic states which would be the grey area/neutral/transitional (whatever you want to call them) states located in between the Northeast and the South. Technically via the census, the Mid Atlantic states are PA, NJ and NY (which together with the New England states create the Northeast) and DE, MD, and VA are south Atlantic states in the Southern U.S.
You obviously don't live on the East Coast or Mid Atlantic:

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Old 08-26-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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Technically via the census, the Mid Atlantic states are PA, NJ and NY (which together with the New England states create the Northeast) and DE, MD, and VA are south Atlantic states in the Southern U.S.
But I am not seeking "technical" answers. I am savvy enough to know about the Census and wouldn't have opened a thread to be informed how that agency categorizes states. I am interested instead in posters' views and what they are based on. You are from Philly if I'm correct. Do you feel Delaware, half an hour south of us, is culturally different enough to be in a different region? Aligned with Richmond & Roanoke?
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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But I am not seeking "technical" answers. I am savvy enough to know about the Census and wouldn't have opened a thread to be informed how that agency categorizes states. I am interested instead in posters' views and what they are based on. You are from Philly if I'm correct. Do you feel Delaware, half an hour south of us, is culturally different enough to be in a different region? Aligned with Richmond & Roanoke?
Exactly too much emphasis on a census designation, no one is riding around thinking when they are in the census designated south/north. People go off feel and what looks similar to each other.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:27 PM
 
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I never heard of the term "Mid-Atlantic" until city data.
In the Washington DC area, the term is used fairly often nowadays in the names of a variety of organizations and institutions in the area. More people in general also call this the Mid-Atlantic.

I guess its use has become particularly common in the last 10 years or so.
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Thing is, western New York never struck me as being Midwestern. Great Lakes, yes. Midwest, no. Buffalo and Rochester are basically the intersection of New England and Great Lakes cultures, much like Pittsburgh being the intersection of megalopolitan and Appalachian cultures.
Oh I totally agree that Western NY (or anywhere in NY state) is definitely not the Midwest, even if it does touch the Great Lakes. To me, New York State is just the Northeast. Same for Pennsylvania.

I think where it gets confusing with the term "Mid Atlantic", is the fact that it includes both parts of the Northeast, as well as parts of the Upper South. It's kind of of an "inter-regional" sub-region... if that makes sense.
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Old 08-26-2014, 03:32 PM
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West Virginia is a state that you can literally split in half between regions. U.S. 60 and south is part of the interior South, and U.S. 50 and north are part of the interior Northeast. (In between is in between.) It also makes more sense to include it with the Mid-Atlantic than the Midwest. The rural Midwest is heavily agrarian, whereas the rural Northeast and Mid-Atlantic are mountainous. Furthermore, it's far enough east to get belted by nor'easters in the winter, and it straddles the Eastern Continental Divide.




Thing is, western New York never struck me as being Midwestern. Great Lakes, yes. Midwest, no. Buffalo and Rochester are basically the intersection of New England and Great Lakes cultures, much like Pittsburgh being the intersection of megalopolitan and Appalachian cultures.

As far as my definition of the Mid-Atlantic, I tend to subdivide it. There's the northern Mid-Atlantic and the southern Mid-Atlantic. The northern Mid-Atlantic is basically anywhere north or east of the Mason-Dixon line that's not part of New England: Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, and the northern panhandle of West Virginia. The southern Mid-Atlantic is anywhere south or west of the Mason-Dixon line that's not part of the deep South: District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia minus the northern panhandle. The culture of the northern Mid-Atlantic tends to originate from the New York/Philadelphia blob, and the culture of the southern Mid-Atlantic tends to originate from the Washington DC/Baltimore blob and the "Tidewater" region of Virginia.

By the way, these days I don't have a problem including North Carolina with the southern Mid-Atlantic because I never considered it part of the deep South, and it seems more aligned with Virginia culturally, socioeconomically and politically than it does with South Carolina.
I agree on New York. I can accept what you said about the Mid-Atlantic being split between the regions with MD as the quintessential M-A state.



I think that this fits well (for right now and in the not too distant future re:the little section of NC).

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Old 08-26-2014, 03:41 PM
 
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Middle Colonies(NY,NJ,&PA) + Upper South Atlantic(DEL,MD,&VA) = Modern Day Mid Atlantic!
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Old 08-26-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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In the Washington DC area, the term is used fairly often nowadays in the names of a variety of organizations and institutions in the area. More people in general also call this the Mid-Atlantic.

I guess its use has become particularly common in the last 10 years or so.
The name is also extremely common in the Norfolk/Va Beach/Tidewater area of Virginia for organizations, businesses, and networks.
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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The name is also extremely common in the Norfolk/Va Beach/Tidewater area of Virginia for organizations, businesses, and networks.
Its been common here more than 20 years.
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