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View Poll Results: Which states do you believe belong in the Mid-Atlantic region?
New York 75 61.48%
New Jersey 87 71.31%
Pennsylvania 88 72.13%
Delaware 92 75.41%
Maryland 92 75.41%
Virginia 60 49.18%
West Virginia 25 20.49%
North Carolina 15 12.30%
Other (please specify) 4 3.28%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-27-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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What is Mid-Atlantic culture? Is that anything that's not southern?
I think it's more than that. I find these states exhibit differences from those in New England, as well. Rather than put up my own strawman that might divert the thread, however, I would like to let this play out. I am pleased that the thread is moving beyond a simple listing of adjacent states. I am hoping posters will continue to consider if there is Mid-Atlantic culture and if so, describe its characteristics. Do you have a view on that?
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I think it's more than that. I find these states exhibit differences from those in New England, as well. Rather than put up my own strawman that might divert the thread, however, I would like to let this play out. I am pleased that the thread is moving beyond a simple listing of adjacent states. I am hoping posters will continue to consider if there is Mid-Atlantic culture and if so, describe its characteristics. Do you have a view on that?
I do. I don't think there's such a thing as Mid-Atlantic culture. Geographically, the "Mid Atlantic" spans across both the South and the Northeast, which is what the responses to your poll suggest. As Kbanks and 757 have noted, the colloquial understanding of "Mid Atlantic" extends at least as far down as Hampton Roads.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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It is! I'm from the Charleston/Huntington area, which IMO seems more Midwestern/Ohio like culturally, but certainly Appalachian as well. The Eastern Panhandle is the more similar to Maryland and Virginia, with part of that being bedroom communities for DC. North Central WV and the Northern Panhandle are very PA influenced culturally. And Southern WV is like KY and Southern VA with your Southern influences but mostly typical Appalachian.

If we were to just divide states based on North and South, I consider WV a Northern state. We are more industrial, have a colder climate, and have stronger ties with Ohio and PA to our north then we do with economics in the south. With that being said, its hard to solely place WV in one area because it is the crossroads for many regions. That is why Mid Atlantic is a good region for WV.
I've been around your state quite a bit - probably more than the average non-resident. I used to go to Parkersburg regularly on business. I've spent a day in Harpers Ferry and another in Charleston. Also, although I only saw it through my windshield, I've driven though both panhandles. I get a lot of what you're saying, but just to play devil's advocate, I'd like to through out a few of my own thoughts. You suggest that the eastern panhandle is similar to Maryland, but many Marylanders would say that part of Maryland is extremely different from the rest of the state. I also know WV borders KY as well as southwest Virginia (where I was in graduate school), and my guts tells me it gets pretty "southern" in the southern half of your state (please correct me if I'm wrong). Further, you state where you live (the cultural heart of the state) is midwestern. Yet, you feel WV, a state that doesn't have a coast, should be classified as Mid-Atlantic. I am not challenging you - I would just like more insight into your opinion. Is it just a compromise, or do you feel the stae more culturally aligns with the Mid-Atlantic than say, the south or the midwest? Thanks.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Center City
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I do. I don't think there's such a thing as Mid-Atlantic culture. Geographically, the "Mid Atlantic" spans across both the South and the Northeast, which is what the responses to your poll suggest. As Kbanks and 757 have noted, the colloquial understanding of "Mid Atlantic" extends at least as far down as Hampton Roads.
Yes, I suspected there would be differing opinions, which are (if I may use a pun) all over the map. That's why I opened this thread. Thanks for sharing your view that there is no such thing as Mid-Atlantic culture. I continue to be curious as to what others have to say.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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Maryland, Delaware and Virginia. All the other states are Northern, no question and North Carolina is down south, no question.

West Virginia is going more towards the mid-west but you can include it with Virginia, if you want, I guess.
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Old 08-27-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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One of the notable characteristics about the Mid-Atlantic region is its wealth/affluence.

Here is a list of the top 20 highest income counties in the United States. See if you can tell how many of these are in the Mid-Atlantic:

1. Loudoun County, Virginia - $117,876

2. Howard County, Maryland - $108,844

3. Fairfax County, Virginia - $107,096

4. Hunterdon County, New Jersey - $105,186

5. Arlington County, Virginia - $100,474

6. Stafford County, Virginia - $97,606

7. Putnam County, New York - $96,223

8. Somerset County, New Jersey - $95,825

9. Douglas County, Colorado - $95,324

10. Morris County, New Jersey - $95,294

11. Montgomery County, Maryland - $94,965

12. Prince William County, Virginia - $93,744

13. Nassau County, New York - $93,214

14. Santa Clara County, California - $91,425

15. Charles County, Maryland - $90,880

16. Williamson County, Tennessee - $90,759

17. Marin County, California - $90,535

18. Anne Arundel County, Maryland - $89,179

19. Calvert County, Maryland - $87,449

20. Sussex County, New Jersey - $86,625
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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So is Virginia not a Southern state then?
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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So is Virginia not a Southern state then?
Well, here's the thing: Regions are only concepts we hold about states here in the US. We do not live live in regional jurisdictions governed by elected regional authorities. Some people feel the lines are fixed - quite passionately in some cases as it turns out. Others recognize the lines are not fixed, and with certain "border" states, there is less consensus as to how we might categorize them regionally. So as far as your question goes, that is one reason for this thread - to assess which states posters here consider to be Mid-Atlantic. As you can see, opinions vary. This would be expected because, as I said, regions are not "official" designations with hard lines and different governments, as are our states.

As to your question, while I have an opinion, neither I nor any one person can point to an authority that says whether Virginia is or is not a southern state. The best any of us can do is offer our views along with our reasons for holding them. How do you see Virginia?
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:27 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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So is Virginia not a Southern state then?
Virginia being southern does not take away it's Mid-Atlantic(ness). The Mid Atlantic is comprised of states from both sides.
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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If you want to be technical about it, it would appear that the two states that are actually midway along the Atlantic seaboard would be VA and NC. In fact, the state line between the two states looks pretty darn close to the midway point. That said, I am perfectly aware that this is not the usual interpretation of what MidAtlantic usually is. ...just sayin'.
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