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View Poll Results: Southernmost northeastern state
New Jersey 29 23.58%
Pennsylvania 14 11.38%
Delaware 7 5.69%
Maryland 45 36.59%
West Virginia 11 8.94%
Virginia 17 13.82%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-30-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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^ Ok. I guess delaware is not quite dixie but still a little country lol.
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Looking at the list, didn't West Virginia already "secede" from the South? I mean, it became a state when Virginia seceded - it broke away and joined the Union as it's own separate state.
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Old 08-30-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Looking at the list, didn't West Virginia already "secede" from the South? I mean, it became a state when Virginia seceded - it broke away and joined the Union as it's own separate state.
No, it did not. There was almost no vote for statehood in 75% of West Virginia. If Virginia hadn't pulled the 20 or so regiments of West Virginia's Confederate soldiers from West Virginia and used them to defend Richmond rather than West Virginia then the state would still be intact. It was divided in the same way countries were divided in Europe after WWI.

Staunton Spectator, Jan. 14, 1862, Augusta County



West Virginians at Gettysburg, Youtube video

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Old 08-30-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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No, it did not. There was almost no vote for statehood in 75% of West Virginia. If Virginia hadn't pulled the 20 or so regiments of West Virginia's Confederate soldiers from West Virginia and used them to defend Richmond rather than West Virginia then the state would still be intact. It was divided in the same way countries were divided in Europe after WWI.

Staunton Spectator, Jan. 14, 1862, Augusta County



West Virginians at Gettysburg, Youtube video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNWxqIUdbfo
My bad. I thought that when WV broke away from VA and was admitted into the Union in 1863, that meant it had "seceded" from the South.
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Old 08-30-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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It's a heavily north influenced state indeed. The answer is NJ however.
New Jersey reaches as far south as Washington DC. If you still think Delaware is not a northeastern state, then New Jersey should give away its southern counties to Delaware. Otherwise, Delaware will always be a northeastern state.

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Old 08-30-2014, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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New Jersey reaches as far south as Washington DC. If you still think Delaware is not a northeastern state, then New Jersey should give away its southern counties to Delaware. Otherwise, Delaware will always be a northeastern state.
There you go with that logic again, didn't we already talk about this? What was the reason Virginia is not a northeastern state again?
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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My bad. I thought that when WV broke away from VA and was admitted into the Union in 1863, that meant it had "seceded" from the South.
Most people believe that. Here's a short video that explains much of what happened in WV. It's best to watch it in "full screen", as there is a lot of scrolling text, the "pause" button is useful too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusEJhzHXN8
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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They probably didn't like the artist presented to them. They had southern artist, however, so it's not like they were bias. Scarface, Ludacris, Yung Won, fien were all signed Defjam or RR. Baltimore seemed to have excelled more with R&B. King Los was signed to Bad Boy until a few months ago, but you know how that usually goes. Los is one the best lyricist out, and I would put money on him being the best at freestyling off the head.
I really meant why DC and Baltimore never had anyone big in the rap game, period. Unless, of course, you want to call Tim Trees a "big" time rapper.

I also meant why Baltimore never produced an "Up North" sound a la Cassidy, Jadakiss, DMX, Styles P, etc.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I really meant why DC and Baltimore never had anyone big in the rap game, period. Unless, of course, you want to call Tim Trees a "big" time rapper.

I also meant why Baltimore never produced an "Up North" sound a la Cassidy, Jadakiss, DMX, Styles P, etc.
I'm not from DC, so I really can't speak on them. However, I'll say that Wale doesn't have a "southern" sound. Also, Philly and NYC don't have the same sound. Tim Trees was a local artist, I'm not sure how big he became outside of Baltimore. The biggest rapper from Baltimore would be King Los, he's also not a southern style southern artist. Other than that, I really don't know why Baltimore never had a superstar rapper like other southern cities.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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I'm not from DC, so I really can't speak on them. However, I'll say that Wale doesn't have a "southern" sound.
If you listen to Wale pre-Attention Deficit, his beat construction was most certainly "southern."
Fat Trel and Comp also have characteristically southern beat production.

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Also, Philly and NYC don't have the same sound.
Both New York and Philly are characteristically "East Coast." Way more sampling. More high hat and long snare. More kick as opposed to 808. Content-wise, much more craven.

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Tim Trees was a local artist, I'm not sure how big he became outside of Baltimore. The biggest rapper from Baltimore would be King Los, he's also not a southern style southern artist. Other than that, I really don't know why Baltimore never had a superstar rapper like other southern cities.
There aren't too many "southern style artists" coming out nowadays since that style is fading away and being replaced by a more general sound that's southern influenced (i.e., Big Sean, Young Money, Tyga, etc.). Club DJs can forever be thankful to the South for addicting people to heavy 808 beats, which means they no longer have to worry about scratching, mixing or otherwise possessing any real skills DJs had in the 90s.

That said, the Philly/NYC sound doesn't fit Baltimore or DC.


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