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View Poll Results: Southernmost northeastern state
New Jersey 29 23.58%
Pennsylvania 14 11.38%
Delaware 7 5.69%
Maryland 45 36.59%
West Virginia 11 8.94%
Virginia 17 13.82%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2014, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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How are you going to argue with the words that came directly out of the man's mouth?



Pusha T Presents: A Clipse Guide to New York City | Village Voice

That's pretty unambiguous.
He is saying what I said..."that era" of rap where people practiced the ART of RHYMING... all people who respect the art and culture in that fashion (like Common) come off that family tree especially those who grew up in the 80/90s. That is the influence. Many put their own personal and regional slang and temperament in the way they actually say rhymes though. He is referencing going over BDK and G RAP's lyrics when he says "I guess THOSE DAYS are definitely instilled in the way me and my brother rap today." that is what he is saying. I know you don't think he actually raps like Kane or G Rap...Nas does though (with his own twist) they from Queens (KGR & Nas)...who rap like Push from the BX.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I personally think that people who vehemently insist that DC or Maryland are northeastern are nuts.
Except that poll after poll show that the consensus view is that DC and Maryland are in fact Northeastern.

Therefore, to say that they are absolutely not is a position which strains credibility.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Except that poll after poll show that the consensus view is that DC and Maryland are in fact Northeastern.

Therefore, to say that they are not is a position which strains credibility.
They lose even more credibility when their only defense is what the census says. The census used to count African Americans as 3/5th of a person back in the 18th century but that doesn't mean you have to believe it.

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Old 09-05-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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They lose even more credibility when there only defense is what the census says. The census used to count African Americans as 3/5th of a person back in the 18th century but that doesn't mean you have to believe it.
If northeasterners believe the census is the end all be all, then by default they're have to believe blacks were 3/5 human.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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What? Ok it is late and I just got home and I am totally confused about you are saying here.
Meaning look at the poll, and the most debated topic/state in the whole thread. It's obvious regardless of who will admit it, that Maryland is the state most people see as the "end of the Northeast."


Although i'm one to say Mid-Atlantic every time, I leave the south vs NE crap alone.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Schenectady, NY
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New Jersey stand up
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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They lose even more credibility when their only defense is what the census says. The census used to count African Americans as 3/5th of a person back in the 18th century but that doesn't mean you have to believe it.
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If northeasterners believe the census is the end all be all, then by default they're have to believe blacks were 3/5 human.
I think you are both being a bit unfair. The 13th and 14th amendments to the Constitution changed the 3/5 regarding Black Americans way back in the 1860s. In contrast I do not recall anything legally announcing that Maryland left the South and became part of the Northeast!

Like I said before, I think Maryland fits better today with the Northeastern states then the Southern states. But I see nothing wrong with people who want to go by the old definitions.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:34 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Interestingly look at how the Maryland and Virginia websites describe the location of their states.

MARYLAND (Facts )
Location: On the Eastern seaboard of the US, south of Pennsylvania and north of Virginia.

VIRGINIA (About Virginia - Virginia Is For Lovers )
Gateway to the South
Located midway between New York and Florida, Virginia is the gateway to the South. It is also sometimes classified in the Mid-Atlantic region.

Interestingly, Virginia proudly states where she is but Maryland leaves it out. Although at least Maryland knows she is on the Eastern Seaboard!
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Old 09-06-2014, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Interestingly look at how the Maryland and Virginia websites describe the location of their states.

MARYLAND (Facts )
Location: On the Eastern seaboard of the US, south of Pennsylvania and north of Virginia.

VIRGINIA (About Virginia - Virginia Is For Lovers )
Gateway to the South
Located midway between New York and Florida, Virginia is the gateway to the South. It is also sometimes classified in the Mid-Atlantic region.

Interestingly, Virginia proudly states where she is but Maryland leaves it out. Although at least Maryland knows she is on the Eastern Seaboard!
DC's website describes it as a southern city.

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As a southern city, DC has always had a large African American population.
Washington, DC History | washington.org
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:18 AM
 
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New Jersey stand up
Standing.
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