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View Poll Results: Southernmost northeastern state
New Jersey 29 23.58%
Pennsylvania 14 11.38%
Delaware 7 5.69%
Maryland 45 36.59%
West Virginia 11 8.94%
Virginia 17 13.82%
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Old 09-23-2014, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Do you have a example of a southerner saying "wooder"?

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Old 09-23-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Philly a Southern city? Never was, never will be. No wait, since most people can't agree on what is in the South and many want to be Southerners, I have decided that the South now extends all the way to the Canadian border, so the southernmost Northeastern state is now what ever the southernmost province in Canada is.
No one is saying that Philadelphia is a southern city. Philadelphia is obviously a northeastern city. However, people are saying that if Baltimore's vouch for being northeastern is because it's supposed to be SO much like Philadelphia according to some people (which obviously is not true because Baltimore is very different from Philly) how come a lot of people been on record have made statements about Baltimore such as describing Baltimore as a "sleepy southern town" or saying in many other ways that Baltimore is a southern city? I personally view Baltimore as a neutral or transitional city and not a northeastern or southern city because it has a combination of both northern and southern influences.
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Old 09-23-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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No one is saying that Philadelphia is a southern city. Philadelphia is obviously a northeastern city. However, people are saying that if Baltimore's vouch for being northeastern is because it's supposed to be SO much like Philadelphia according to some people (which obviously is not true because Baltimore is very different from Philly) how come a lot of people been on record have made statements about Baltimore such as describing Baltimore as a "sleepy southern town" or saying in many other ways that Baltimore is a southern city? I personally view Baltimore as a neutral or transitional city and not a northeastern or southern city because it has a combination of both northern and southern influences.
If you look hard enough, I'm sure you'll find somebody who talks about growing up in a sleepy southern town called Philadelphia. Especially old timers like Bill Cosby, Chris Matthews, McCoy Tyner, Jerry Blavat, Noam Chomsky or Ed Weinberger. It wasn't until New Yorkers came down to Philadelphia that the culture became more "northern." Philadelphia's native culture was not northern; northern culture was brought to Philly by Yankee transplants.

The debate rages on over whether Philly is a northern or southern city for that very reason.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:00 AM
 
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whats the most southern, eastern state west of the mississippi but north of the mason dixon line... wow... just wow...
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:21 AM
 
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whats the most southern, eastern state west of the mississippi but north of the mason dixon line... wow... just wow...
Nebraska
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:26 AM
 
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If you look hard enough, I'm sure you'll find somebody who talks about growing up in a sleepy southern town called Philadelphia. Especially old timers like Bill Cosby, Chris Matthews, McCoy Tyner, Jerry Blavat, Noam Chomsky or Ed Weinberger. It wasn't until New Yorkers came down to Philadelphia that the culture became more "northern." Philadelphia's native culture was not northern; northern culture was brought to Philly by Yankee transplants.

The debate rages on over whether Philly is a northern or southern city for that very reason.
Philadelphia: The Most Northern of Southern cities

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After decades of speaking with what was in effect a southern dialect, Philadelphians were becoming – linguistically, that is – more northern.
One well known Philadelphian, Will Smith, has both Southern and Northeastern aspects to his dialect.

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Old 09-23-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Philadelphia: The Most Northern of Southern cities

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One well known Philadelphian, Will Smith, has both Southern and Northeastern aspects to his dialect.

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Exactly! Those articles clearly refer to the sleepy southern city that was Philadelphia until the Yankees took over.

Why didn't you pull out the money quote from the article?

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It was not until I moved further north that I realized how deeply rooted in the South Philadelphia truly is.
And this one.

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Philadelphia is a Southern city. When I came to Philadelphia it was as Southern, if not more so, as my hometown of Chattanooga, Tennessee.
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Philadelphia has been described as a sleepy southern town and a commercial industrial center.
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Philadelphia was Southern. And you learned that very quickly.
And this one.

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Philadelphia was a city of gentility, slow living and racial segregation. As in other Southern cities, there were many things Black people in Philadelphia couldn't do.
Why would you leave out those important quotes?

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Old 09-23-2014, 01:29 PM
 
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Philadelphia is not southern, don't make me laugh..

Anything north of Virginia is northern without question. Tell me how many whites in Philadelphia have ever eaten chitterlings. And if you had to look that up, you are NOT a southerner *cough Maryland* and you have businesses talking about whats Southern based off of your trip to Myrtle Beach...

Seriously some of you think anything that strays from the Canadian border must be southern.

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That's it that's all. Not Philadelphia, or Baltimore, or Delaware or Illinois. Case closed.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Philadelphia is not southern, don't make me laugh..

Anything north of Virginia is northern without question. Tell me how many whites in Philadelphia have ever eaten chitterlings. And if you had to look that up, you are NOT a southerner *cough Maryland* and you have businesses talking about whats Southern based off of your trip to Myrtle Beach...

Seriously some of you think anything that strays from the Canadian border must be southern.

Classic Yankeedom:




Classic Dixie:



That's it that's all. Not Philadelphia, or Baltimore, or Delaware or Illinois. Case closed.
Did you not see the quotes I posted? Philadelphia has a long history as a southern city. It was part of the Upper South. Chris Matthews even said it was Southern.

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That's what happened. I lived through it--Philadelphia was the South.
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Philadelphia was once clearly the South with all of its pride and prejudices.
Philly today is a mixture of both--neither northern nor southern. It's a classic border town with elements of north and south. And it's very far from being "Yankee." That's Massachusetts.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:42 PM
 
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Philadelphia, Mississippi is very Southern indeed. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania is, was, and will always be a solid Northeastern city (with Southern influences).
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