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Old 09-01-2014, 08:36 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Give some examples of your travels.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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I thought Atlanta looked pretty spotless, not just in the rather sterile downtown, but midtown as well.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Cleanest and most sanitized downtown I've been to is probably Salt Lake City.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Berkeley, S.F. Bay Area
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The downtown of "Not San Francisco."
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:01 PM
 
Location: St. Paul, MN
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Portland, OR.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Chicago was pretty clean. Even the buildings.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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The downtown of "Not San Francisco."
I giggled at this.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:41 PM
 
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A clean downtown will be a boring downtown. Think Winnipeg, Tulsa, Charlotte, or something.

Every world class downtown I've visited (NYC, Paris, London, Rome, Tokyo, Hong Kong) was a little bit messy. Ok, maybe SF was a lot messy, but still. You need people and activity and a bit of urban tumult to have an impressive downtown.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Portland, OR.
You really felt that way? I was in Portland 5 months ago and I thought it looked pretty gritty and filled with shady panhandlers all over the place.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Berkeley, S.F. Bay Area
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It's not even that cleaning crews in San Francisco do a bad job, it's just that you have: Homeless people who use downtown as an encampment, jerks from Mid-Market who trash the place, and Chinatown inhabitants who do the best they can but are moving around too many things. The area near the trolley car turnaround is clean, but veer off the super-tourist area, and it's beauty covered in filth.
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