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Old 09-03-2014, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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If you visited Minnesota and saw nothing but farms, then I'm afraid to say that you're a boring person. 2/3rds of the state is forest.
Actually, he's a known troll. There are beautiful northwoods and some of the Driftless in MN. It obviously isn't "all farms," and he knows it.

However, MN is only about a quarter forested: Forest cover by state in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By comparison, Michigan (over) and Wisconsin (under) are around half forested, Illinois is 11% and Iowa is 5.4%. Massachusetts is around half, 1% over Michigan.

People are underrating MN and overrating MA here, but what's new? Overall by what was given by the OP, you do have to give the nod to MA, however.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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MA resident here, and I think that I just might take MN in this one, especially when one considers the cost of housing here---absolutely disgusting.

Minnesota, and the Twin Cities, are an undiscovered diamond.
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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I've lived in both. At the state level, overall I'd lean towards Mass., but they both have strong selling points and cons.

For geography in particular I think Mass comes out ahead, but there are certainly some beautiful areas in MN as well (Boundary Waters, Miss. river valley) - but there are more prarie flatlands as well that really don't do it for me.

As for MSP vs. Bos, I'd actually choose MSP overall I think, COL being a key consideration, but also pace, traffic, etc.
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I thought MSP was a fast paced area in general and heard there's lots of traffic, although not quite as bad as Boston metro.
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Say what?
Yea....Minnesota has a good educational system, but Massachusetts' system is arguably the best in the country.
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Old 09-05-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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Yea....Minnesota has a good educational system, but Massachusetts' system is arguably the best in the country.
Could be wrong but my sense is that's largely a function of how many wealthy towns MA has. Sure, there's Wellesley/Concord/Bedford, etc. but you're not buying/renting there if you're middle class.

There are plenty of underwhelming school districts in MA (no one raves about Springfield or Lawrence), and while there are some "middle-class" cities in the metro with good schools like Reading, middle-class is relative - there's still not much available to buy in that town under $350k. In MN you can potentially buy into Edina for that kind of cash.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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Actually, he's a known troll. There are beautiful northwoods and some of the Driftless in MN. It obviously isn't "all farms," and he knows it.

However, MN is only about a quarter forested: Forest cover by state in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By comparison, Michigan (over) and Wisconsin (under) are around half forested, Illinois is 11% and Iowa is 5.4%. Massachusetts is around half, 1% over Michigan.

People are underrating MN and overrating MA here, but what's new? Overall by what was given by the OP, you do have to give the nod to MA, however.
As noted on the top of that list, though, the percentages only include timberland. I have a hard time imagining that only 28% of Minnesota is forested. I don't have a hard time imagining that 28% of Minnesota is timberland, however.
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Old 09-05-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Schenectady, NY
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Mass still winning
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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As noted on the top of that list, though, the percentages only include timberland. I have a hard time imagining that only 28% of Minnesota is forested. I don't have a hard time imagining that 28% of Minnesota is timberland, however.
It's definitely way more than 28% forested. A large portion of the state is woodland with the occasional clearing for farmland. The entire Twin Cities metro area could be considered an urban forest.

Eerie Minneapolis skyline by bergy680, on Flickr

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Old 09-05-2014, 08:24 PM
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Location: Boston
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As for MA, I have sensed snobbiness in the Boston metro area and that's pretty much it. Central CT and western MA don't seem snooty to me at all.

Because to most people MA = Boston.
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