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Old 09-14-2014, 11:27 PM
 
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I moved from Chicagoland to Bay Area to get back on employment after I lost my job in data center in Chicago. I got pretty low offer ($21/h) but I agreed to do it because I have bills to pay. I started at night shift which upped my pay $15 but for such low it forced me to live in East San Jose (rough part of SJ) in studio where rent is not cheap ($1200, and it gets too hot inside my place in summer, too cold in winter). I am tech, IT person on entry level. I have Bachelors degree in IT and 2+ of experience troubleshooting servers, help desk and certificates in network+ and CCNA (expired but was active at time of my hire). What I wanna do in future is do network engineering or network engineering +network programming (SDN). I am currently studying on weekends for certificates like CCNA (new) , CCNP, MCP, Linux. I plan to find a better job, but before doing so I am am looking for a cheaper place to live and I am willing to downsize to 1 bedroom in shared apartment. But finding it, has been B*. I looked through local craiglist, roomate match services like easyroomates and 90% don't return introduction emails, 9/10 are Asian, Chinese who I meet from craiglsit (I have nothing against race, its just I think being while male it plays have role), they always put me on wait-list after tour, some engage prospect tenats into a "secret bidding war" even in East Bay cities. Also being Polish I found it hard to find other Polish people, there does not seem much of them here or to make friends with Americans outside work because I work off-hours. Some people have told me that I really get underpaid, not just in relevance to 100k+ SV techs, but also for my job, that there are people in other companies who without degree and work experience start higher than me and on average it is $30/h now.

I am thinking of moving again and finding job somewhere else. But where? Back to Chicago? Or maybe look for opportunities in DC/Virginia, Texas or Seattle?
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Old 09-15-2014, 01:01 AM
 
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Have you considered checking out a place like Omaha, or Indianapolis? Both places have pretty low unemployment rates, and both places have very low COL.
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Old 09-15-2014, 01:08 AM
 
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Have you considered checking out a place like Omaha, or Indianapolis? Both places have pretty low unemployment rates, and both places have very low COL.
too dull and not too many tech jobs compared to places I mentioned in my original post.
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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Think outside the box a bit and look at cities like Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta or Baltimore where the cost of living is more reasonable, there are plenty of job opportunities and you still get plenty bang for the buck in terms of big city amenities.
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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Maybe you could find something here: http://www.techvalley.org
Tech Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your guide to New York's Tech Valley region - Albany Business Review
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Old 09-15-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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too dull and not too many tech jobs compared to places I mentioned in my original post.
In Seattle, your average network technician will have a masters; the competition tends to be very well educated in this part of the world.

Also, while DC and Seattle are cheaper than San Fran, it's not by much. Given their expense, those are not places you want to go to without a plan. I live in the Seattle area and am very familiar with the IT market up here; we are starting to see people move up here and it's very sad because people tend to not do their homework and realize that studio and 1 bedroom apartments average $1200/mo or more in the "popular" places to live now. That is a lot of money (hence the oft-quoted $15/hr discussion). DC is even more expensive than that.

Houston and Dallas would probably be good places to start, if you want bigger city amenities and don't mind a "lesser" public transit system. If public transit is more important, consider Pittsburgh and Minneapolis.
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Old 09-15-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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Think outside the box a bit and look at cities like Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta or Baltimore where the cost of living is more reasonable, there are plenty of job opportunities and you still get plenty bang for the buck in terms of big city amenities.
I would still pick the Bay Area over Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta, and especially Baltimore (WTF?) every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Old 09-15-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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too dull and not too many tech jobs compared to places I mentioned in my original post.
If you're you're looking for an area that's not dull you can take DFW off your list.

Denver has a very hot startup community and while the overall number of jobs is lower than a place like Houston, you'll still find plenty to choose from in a metro area dominated by outdoor activities.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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If you're you're looking for an area that's not dull you can take DFW off your list.

Denver has a very hot startup community and while the overall number of jobs is lower than a place like Houston, you'll still find plenty to choose from in a metro area dominated by outdoor activities.
How on earth is DFW dull? If you can't find something fun to do in a metro area of 7 million people, the problem is with you. On top of it all, there are precious few places in the country that have such a low cost of living and such a high number of IT/tech jobs.

The only way DFW is dull is that the landscape and geography is prairie land and the topography is bland, but that is the same as Chicago. But just as Chicago has the Wisconsin Dells for a days drive to find a more interesting terrain, DFW has the Ozarks.
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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I moved from Chicagoland to Bay Area to get back on employment after I lost my job in data center in Chicago. I got pretty low offer ($21/h) but I agreed to do it because I have bills to pay. I started at night shift which upped my pay $15 but for such low it forced me to live in East San Jose (rough part of SJ) in studio where rent is not cheap ($1200, and it gets too hot inside my place in summer, too cold in winter). I am tech, IT person on entry level. I have Bachelors degree in IT and 2+ of experience troubleshooting servers, help desk and certificates in network+ and CCNA (expired but was active at time of my hire). What I wanna do in future is do network engineering or network engineering +network programming (SDN). I am currently studying on weekends for certificates like CCNA (new) , CCNP, MCP, Linux. I plan to find a better job, but before doing so I am am looking for a cheaper place to live and I am willing to downsize to 1 bedroom in shared apartment. But finding it, has been B*. I looked through local craiglist, roomate match services like easyroomates and 90% don't return introduction emails, 9/10 are Asian, Chinese who I meet from craiglsit (I have nothing against race, its just I think being while male it plays have role), they always put me on wait-list after tour, some engage prospect tenats into a "secret bidding war" even in East Bay cities. Also being Polish I found it hard to find other Polish people, there does not seem much of them here or to make friends with Americans outside work because I work off-hours. Some people have told me that I really get underpaid, not just in relevance to 100k+ SV techs, but also for my job, that there are people in other companies who without degree and work experience start higher than me and on average it is $30/h now.

I am thinking of moving again and finding job somewhere else. But where? Back to Chicago? Or maybe look for opportunities in DC/Virginia, Texas or Seattle?
Check out the RTP area of North Carolina (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill).
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