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View Poll Results: Which region is more conservative?
New England 54 48.65%
Pacific Northwest (OR & WA) 57 51.35%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-20-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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There is no such thing as a redneck in New England.
Plenty of blue collar Union people that only vote Dem because of Dems having a pro union stance.
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Plenty of blue collar Union people that only vote Dem because of Dems having a pro union stance.
That makes them redneck?
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Old 10-20-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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There's plenty of Rednecks in New England, maybe not as many as other parts of the country. Hell, I grew up in MA and have some redneck tendencies, I'm not rocking out to Toby Keith while I work on my Trans Am on cinder blocks, but a Saturday night with some Beers and a campfire is a good night. You're not gonna find rednecks in Boston but in the suburbs there plenty.
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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It's close, but I would say New England.
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Old 10-21-2015, 01:50 AM
 
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Plenty of blue collar Union people that only vote Dem because of Dems having a pro union stance.
I could also say they're plenty of right wing liberal capitalists who only vote Dem because they support gay marriage and hate religion.
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Old 10-21-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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Republicans have lost every statewide election in Oregon since 2002, and most since that time in Washington as well. New England currently has two Republican governors (in Maine and Massachusetts) plus two Republican senators (one each in New Hampshire and Maine). But perhaps this is because the Republican party is better at nominating candidates who appeal to the states' overall electorates in some of New England vs. the Northwest.

Of course political outcomes are only one dimension of the degree of conservatism or liberalism in a location. But with the escalating nationwide polarization, liberal Republican or conservative Democratic elected officials are becoming increasingly rare. It does seem like these days that New England states (maybe some more than others) are a bit more likely to consider options from the typically conservative party than the Pacific Northwest is.
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:39 AM
 
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Republicans have lost every statewide election in Oregon since 2002, and most since that time in Washington as well. New England currently has two Republican governors (in Maine and Massachusetts) plus two Republican senators (one each in New Hampshire and Maine). But perhaps this is because the Republican party is better at nominating candidates who appeal to the states' overall electorates in some of New England vs. the Northwest.

Of course political outcomes are only one dimension of the degree of conservatism or liberalism in a location. But with the escalating nationwide polarization, liberal Republican or conservative Democratic elected officials are becoming increasingly rare. It does seem like these days that New England states (maybe some more than others) are a bit more likely to consider options from the typically conservative party than the Pacific Northwest is.
Don't New England conservatives tend to be more centrist though? I could be wrong about that. In terms of self-identification, Massachusetts is considerably more liberal than Oregon and Washington.
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Old 10-28-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Republicans have lost every statewide election in Oregon since 2002, and most since that time in Washington as well. New England currently has two Republican governors (in Maine and Massachusetts) plus two Republican senators (one each in New Hampshire and Maine). But perhaps this is because the Republican party is better at nominating candidates who appeal to the states' overall electorates in some of New England vs. the Northwest.

Of course political outcomes are only one dimension of the degree of conservatism or liberalism in a location. But with the escalating nationwide polarization, liberal Republican or conservative Democratic elected officials are becoming increasingly rare. It does seem like these days that New England states (maybe some more than others) are a bit more likely to consider options from the typically conservative party than the Pacific Northwest is.
At least in Southern New England, Republican governors often win just because voters want "balance" between the 85%+ Democratic legislature and the executive branch. Basically, Americans are adverse to a one party state.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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At least in Southern New England, Republican governors often win just because voters want "balance" between the 85%+ Democratic legislature and the executive branch. Basically, Americans are adverse to a one party state.
I don't really think Americans are. A lot of Republican-leaning states these days seem just fine with being one-party states. Witness Kansas re-electing Sam Brownback (by an admittedly small margin) in 2014 even though he was a miserable failure as governor (he now has an 18% approval rating). It's just Democratic-leaning states that occasionally want to "throw the bums out" or "teach the machine a lesson."
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:23 AM
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I don't really think Americans are. A lot of Republican-leaning states these days seem just fine with being one-party states. Witness Kansas re-electing Sam Brownback (by an admittedly small margin) in 2014 even though he was a miserable failure as governor (he now has an 18% approval rating). It's just Democratic-leaning states that occasionally want to "throw the bums out" or "teach the machine a lesson."
It's also that in local races people tend to vote on the party line, they don't know that much about the candidate, and in New England most local officials will run as a Democrat because it's easier to get elected. A governor's race is higher profile and not as ideological of an office as say, US Congress, so voters are more willing to both cross party line and vote based on the person rather than just the party.
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