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I am not an annoying anti-suburban / anti american snobby urbanist but is it really that different?
Is life in Broken Arrow and Moore really that different from life in Round Rock and Katy? honestly i don't think so.
People on this thread really over exaggerate cultural differences in this country... i have traveled plenty in this country and through out the world and one thing i notice is how America is just miles and miles and miles of basically the same thing..
Traveling between London and Frankfurt (only 500 miles apart) you experience way more cultural difference than if you traveled from Minneapolis to Miami (over 1500 miles).
Texans you aren't that different from Okies (and its not a bad thing.)
If the ONLY thing you look at is suburban areas, then hell, Texas is pretty much like ANY part of this country.
That's a pretty weak example.
Well i'm pretty sure most Texans don't live in rural West Texas or the inner cities of Dallas and Houston... they live in the Suburbs of DFW and Houston
I am not an annoying anti-suburban / anti american snobby urbanist but is it really that different?
Is life in Broken Arrow and Moore really that different from life in Round Rock and Katy? honestly i don't think so.
People on this thread really over exaggerate cultural differences in this country... i have traveled plenty in this country and through out the world and one thing i notice is how America is just miles and miles and miles of basically the same thing..
Traveling between London and Frankfurt (only 500 miles apart) you experience way more cultural difference than if you traveled from Minneapolis to Miami (over 1500 miles).
Texans you aren't that different from Okies (and its not a bad thing.)
I agree.
My personal observation as a TX resident of 12 years? Texans condemn aspects of OK and Oklahomans that they fear are true or feel insecure about in their own state. It's kind of a shadow self.
Also, I currently live in Fort Worth and am looking at SE OK as a place to seek natural beauty and outdoor recreation. North TX is severely lacking in both.
OK along I-35 is brutally ugly. The worst part of the drive between Duluth, MN and the TX-Mexico border, IMO. But if you jump off the interstate in Norman, for example, and search for some good BBQ as we did on our last sojourn north, it's actually somewhat pleasant and pretty reminiscent of Fort Worth. It's not jaw-dropping beautiful, but it's a lot less offensive than it appears from the freeway. When I lived in Austin, we would say the same things as we drove through FW: "Man the poor souls who live in this ugly, provincial, mess of a town". Now that I live here there's plenty to like and there are pockets of pleasantness. I'm sure the same is true of OKC.
Something I am sure of: there are great people in both states.
Well i'm pretty sure most Texans don't live in rural West Texas or the inner cities of Dallas and Houston... they live in the Suburbs of DFW and Houston
Either way, it's still a weak example.
The ENTIRE state is not just suburbs. And really don't want to repeat myself, but like I said:
...more diverse in people, cities, landforms, economy, companies, culture, and political beliefs. Please do NOT equate my state with Oklahoma.
If i had to pick 1 state most like Texas i think i would go with Oklahoma.
Maybe North Texas and the panhandle. Not so much the rest of Texas. I'm not saying that as a spiteful thing. It's just that central, East, South, coastal, and Trans-Pecos Texas really don't share too much in common with Oklahoma. I grew up in Houston, and almost never heard Oklahoma mentioned. Then I lived in Dallas for a while and heard it mentioned quite a bit. Texas is just too huge and too diverse to be compared, across the board, with Oklahoma. Only certain parts of Texas can really be compared.
Though I'm sure to many people outside of the region, they're exactly alike. Personally, I don't even think enough about Oklahoma to have much of an opinion. I drove through it once, on the way to Minneapolis back in '97, and it just seemed... OK.
OK along I-35 is brutally ugly. The worst part of the drive between Duluth, MN and the TX-Mexico border, IMO. But if you jump off the interstate in Norman, for example, and search for some good BBQ as we did on our last sojourn north, it's actually somewhat pleasant and pretty reminiscent of Fort Worth. It's not jaw-dropping beautiful, but it's a lot less offensive than it appears from the freeway. When I lived in Austin, we would say the same things as we drove through FW: "Man the poor souls who live in this ugly, provincial, mess of a town". Now that I live here there's plenty to like and there are pockets of pleasantness. I'm sure the same is true of OKC.
Something I am sure of: there are great people in both states.
There is some nice forest cover, try driving south of the Twin Cities through southern Minnesota and Iowa.
By the time i pass Owatonna, MN i notice i am being awoken by the sound of the rumble strips on the freeway.
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Either way, it's still a weak example.
The ENTIRE state is not just suburbs. And really don't want to repeat myself, but like I said:
...more diverse in people, cities, landforms, economy, companies, culture, and political beliefs. Please do NOT equate my state with Oklahoma.
Okay i'll agree with you in cities, landforms, economy, companies.
Okay i'll agree with you in cities, landforms, economy, companies.
You give me culture and political beliefs.
SERIOUSLY?
Does Oklahoma have the same blend Soutwestern, Creole, Mexican, German, Vietnamese, Jewish and Mideastern cultures along with the typical southern/south central American you see?
Is there ANY metro area as diverse as DFW or Houston?
Does Oklahoma have any political influence besides Conservative and Republican? And yeah, I know that state has more than just Republicans, but it's an ALL red state. Can't say that about Texas.
Even here in Fort Worth, which is supposedly "the biggest conservative city in Texas" had Pride Week and a parade this past weekend.
So please, do NOT compare our states.
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