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No, you try to bait me into these endless, pointless arguments that always derail whatever thread it's in, and it always ends with you and I still in disagreement. Spin it any way you like. It's a waste of time and energy.
No spin at all. It's quite simple actually. You like to abruptly end discussions the minute that you are asked to be specific. And I'm certain that you do so because you are not able to be specific.
For what it's worth, I was merely interested in hearing your perspective. I had no intention of baiting you into an endless argument. Interesting discussion is the reason that most of us are here, afterall.
No spin at all. It's quite simple actually. You like to abruptly end discussions the minute that you are asked to be specific. And I'm certain that you do so because you are not able to be specific.
For what it's worth, I was merely interested in hearing your perspective. I had no intention of baiting you into an endless argument. Interesting discussion is the reason that most of us are here, afterall.
I was specific enough. And the only time I abruptly end discussions is when I feel I'm being grilled about an OPINION I shared... and in the entire year I have been on C-D this has mainly only happened (several times I might add) with you, so you'll have to pardon me if my defenses go up when you start to ask me for specifics where it's not necessary. I will debate an issue if I feel it is worth debating. I don't feel this issue is worth debating. I merely shared an opinion formed from my personal experience growing up in an area that could be considered a "gateway to the Deep South", as per the topic of this thread. Apparently I wasn't specific enough for you. Oh well. This isn't the first time, and I doubt it will be the last.
For what it's worth, I do know by now the difference between when someone is genuinely interested in hearing my perspective, and when someone just wants to challenge my every word. We've had this dance before.
I was specific enough. And the only time I abruptly end discussions is when I feel I'm being grilled about an OPINION I shared... and in the entire year I have been on C-D this has mainly only happened (several times I might add) with you, so you'll have to pardon me if my defenses go up when you start to ask me for specifics where it's not necessary. I will debate an issue if I feel it is worth debating. I don't feel this issue is worth debating. I merely shared an opinion formed from my personal experience growing up in an area that could be considered a "gateway to the Deep South", as per the topic of this thread. Apparently I wasn't specific enough for you. Oh well. This isn't the first time, and I doubt it will be the last.
For what it's worth, I do know by now the difference between when someone is genuinely interested in hearing my perspective, and when someone just wants to challenge my every word. We've had this dance before.
I disagree completely. You made a very confident statement that towns like Dayton and Crosby were more Deep South than Sealy or Hempstead, yet, aside from foliage, you gave no reasons for this. Your explanation ended at "some cultural differences". You did not say what these differences were. So you can tell yourself all you'd like that I was baiting, but anyone who reads the above posts can see that you failed to solidly support your own statement.
FWIW it's been many years since I lived in Houston but it did not strike me as very typically southern, let alone deep south. Too many oil refineries, cowboy hats, and line dancing for one thing, jalapenos served with my morning scrambled eggs for another.
FWIW it's been many years since I lived in Houston but it did not strike me as very typically southern, let alone deep south. Too many oil refineries, cowboy hats, and line dancing for one thing, jalapenos served with my morning scrambled eggs for another.
All of which can be found in Louisiana.
I don't think anyone would argue that Houston is solidly the deep south. I don't think any major city is. But it is my opinion that the region it sits in is definitely a gateway.
Seriously, though, I Google "line dancing Houston" and this is what comes up lol
FWIW it's been many years since I lived in Houston but it did not strike me as very typically southern, let alone deep south. Too many oil refineries, cowboy hats, and line dancing for one thing, jalapenos served with my morning scrambled eggs for another.
I'll give you oil refineries (which are also quite abundant in Southern Louisiana), but where were you in Houston where cowboy hats and line-dancing were the norm? Gilley's burned down a long time ago. I think most major cities have Western-themed nightclubs where you'll see that. That's not exactly commonplace in Houston's local culture. Not in this century at least.
I'll give you oil refineries (which are also quite abundant in Southern Louisiana), but where were you in Houston where cowboy hats and line-dancing were the norm? Gilley's burned down a long time ago. I think most major cities have Western-themed nightclubs where you'll see that. That's not exactly commonplace in Houston's local culture. Not in this century at least.
I did say many years you young whippersnapper
Yeah Gilleys, kind of long in the tooth even then, but still around. Definitely some of the urban cowboy, up and coming oil boom/cow town vibe still left, more western than southern at any rate.
I did say many years you young whippersnapper
Yeah Gilleys, kind of long in the tooth even then, but still around. Definitely some of the urban cowboy, up and coming oil boom/cow town vibe still left, more western than southern at any rate.
Ha! I'm 50, but thanks for making me feel young. Back in those late 70's/early 80's boom days, Houston definitely had some of that wild west vibe to it, but that was indeed a long time ago. Even for me. It's a very different city today. Technically and geographically Southern, but rapidly losing any traces of 'traditional' Southern culture. Still, I do see it as a sort of "gateway" city, in that what lies beyond it is definitely the deep South.
When someone asks whats the gateway to the Deep South, my answer would be Atlanta.
Every region has one international city. Atlanta is where the Deep South meets the World.
Just like Houston is where the world meets the Gulf and South Texas and Dallas is where the world meets the Great Plains.
Except Atlanta is hours away from the Deep South and isn't really tied to the region at all. It was never a cotton town. It's an industrial town.
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